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I've noticed that using youtube-dl seems to prevent my recommendations from changing much. Are there other tricks that one can use to avoid getting bubbled?

kohtatsu 6y ago
Flushing cookies, and watching specific videos in a private tab. If you want to see a "default" youtube homepage for your IP's location, incognito is enough. Google isn't brazen enough to show you recommendations without cookies, despite them being capable of tying your sessions together. I don't use the app on iOS. If you need higher than 720p playback for a video you can request desktop site.
- thaumasiotes 6y ago
  > Google isn't brazen enough to show you recommendations without cookies, despite them being capable of tying your sessions together. Amazon is. I see pages show up in my products-viewed history (logged in) after viewing them incognito.
- Avamander 6y ago
  > If you want to see a "default" youtube homepage for your IP's location, incognito is enough. I personally find that unpersonalized homepage rather offensive. It often considers small countries near a large one as a part of it as the borders are unclear for its algorithms. The same happens with things like Google Play.
  - kohtatsu 6y ago
    Yeah it's not great. It goes away after a few videos though. Then you can nuke it and start fresh on your own terms.
vetinari 6y ago
Youtube-dl doesn't have your Google account cookie, so Youtube doesn't know it is you. You can achieve the same effect by logging out Google account in your browser.
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  The latter doesn't (or didn't?) work. I used to youtube from a box which had never had a google account, and it still bubbled.
  - londons_explore 6y ago
    YouTube will make you a separate "signed out identity", which will be tracked
    - vetinari 6y ago
      Which is still based on cookies; if you drop them, you will start clean again.
bzb3 6y ago
I use YouTube while not logged in and I use an extension that removes all cookies whenever I close a tab. YouTube doesn't remember anything of what I've watched.
Cactus2018 6y ago
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe
Zhyl 6y ago
I subscribe to Youtube channel RSS feeds with newsboat, but you could also follow with any RSS reader.
CyanBird 6y ago
You are already bubbled simply because you are not watching Sudanese music videos... There is a limited time, and within that limited time you will be in an informational bubble because of the opportunity cost of new information

kohtatsu 6y ago

Flushing cookies, and watching specific videos in a private tab. If you want to see a "default" youtube homepage for your IP's location, incognito is enough. Google isn't brazen enough to show you recommendations without cookies, despite them being capable of tying your sessions together. I don't use the app on iOS. If you need higher than 720p playback for a video you can request desktop site.

thaumasiotes 6y ago
> Google isn't brazen enough to show you recommendations without cookies, despite them being capable of tying your sessions together. Amazon is. I see pages show up in my products-viewed history (logged in) after viewing them incognito.
Avamander 6y ago
> If you want to see a "default" youtube homepage for your IP's location, incognito is enough. I personally find that unpersonalized homepage rather offensive. It often considers small countries near a large one as a part of it as the borders are unclear for its algorithms. The same happens with things like Google Play.
- kohtatsu 6y ago
  Yeah it's not great. It goes away after a few videos though. Then you can nuke it and start fresh on your own terms.

vetinari 6y ago

Youtube-dl doesn't have your Google account cookie, so Youtube doesn't know it is you. You can achieve the same effect by logging out Google account in your browser.

082349872349872 6y ago
The latter doesn't (or didn't?) work. I used to youtube from a box which had never had a google account, and it still bubbled.
- londons_explore 6y ago
  YouTube will make you a separate "signed out identity", which will be tracked
  - vetinari 6y ago
    Which is still based on cookies; if you drop them, you will start clean again.

bzb3 6y ago

I use YouTube while not logged in and I use an extension that removes all cookies whenever I close a tab. YouTube doesn't remember anything of what I've watched.

Cactus2018 6y ago

https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe

Zhyl 6y ago

I subscribe to Youtube channel RSS feeds with newsboat, but you could also follow with any RSS reader.

CyanBird 6y ago

You are already bubbled simply because you are not watching Sudanese music videos... There is a limited time, and within that limited time you will be in an informational bubble because of the opportunity cost of new information