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> Billion of devices ≠ billion of users. Source? While you look that up, remember that devices like Macs and iPads are often actually shared by multiple users

> Billion of devices ≠ billion of users. Source? While you look that up, remember that devices like Macs and iPads are often actually shared by multiple users. Claiming your observations and experience override statistics and many other people's preferences is what's laughable.

ZoomZoomZoom 6y ago
Maybe that's you who ought to show any numbers? You said billionS first. The only number I know is "1.5B active installations" which is not even an independent estimate but Tim Cook's boasting in Apple's quarter results. Even if each US and Canada citizen including toddlers had one Apple device (0.365B) I claim it still wouldn't drive the total number to 2B. More numbers: Apple's market share for smartphones in China is estimated at 9%, so again, even if the market was all the population, it's still just 125m. Judging from your submissions and posts you're heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem. It's easy to be biased in this situation and I don't blame you for that. Hope you're happy with their products and they truly make your life easier.
- Razengan 6y ago
  You can easily look for independent estimates (or cold hard visitor/usage statistics) for the total iOS userbase. Billions, billion, millions, million, thousands, thousand, hundreds or even just a hundred: You came in snarling with the accusation that many people whom you don't even know, have Stockholm Syndrome, which really just hints at more of a problem on your side.
  - ZoomZoomZoom 6y ago
    So, no hard data to support your claims, as expected. >You came in snarling with the accusation I just shared an observation. I may be wrong, and you have all the rights to disagree. You can't accuse a person with things done unknowingly and/or unwillingly, so no accusations here.
    - Razengan 6y ago
      > So, no hard data to support your claims, as expected. https://lmgtfy.com/?q=ios+installed+user+base&s=d https://lmgtfy.com/?q=ios+installed+user+base&s=d Which one of these links do you need me to paste here for you?

ZoomZoomZoom 6y ago

Maybe that's you who ought to show any numbers? You said billionS first. The only number I know is "1.5B active installations" which is not even an independent estimate but Tim Cook's boasting in Apple's quarter results. Even if each US and Canada citizen including toddlers had one Apple device (0.365B) I claim it still wouldn't drive the total number to 2B. More numbers: Apple's market share for smartphones in China is estimated at 9%, so again, even if the market was all the population, it's still just 125m. Judging from your submissions and posts you're heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem. It's easy to be biased in this situation and I don't blame you for that. Hope you're happy with their products and they truly make your life easier.

Razengan 6y ago
You can easily look for independent estimates (or cold hard visitor/usage statistics) for the total iOS userbase. Billions, billion, millions, million, thousands, thousand, hundreds or even just a hundred: You came in snarling with the accusation that many people whom you don't even know, have Stockholm Syndrome, which really just hints at more of a problem on your side.
- ZoomZoomZoom 6y ago
  So, no hard data to support your claims, as expected. >You came in snarling with the accusation I just shared an observation. I may be wrong, and you have all the rights to disagree. You can't accuse a person with things done unknowingly and/or unwillingly, so no accusations here.
  - Razengan 6y ago
    > So, no hard data to support your claims, as expected. https://lmgtfy.com/?q=ios+installed+user+base&s=d https://lmgtfy.com/?q=ios+installed+user+base&s=d Which one of these links do you need me to paste here for you?