How do podcasts help? I skip every ad on every podcast I listen to. I click the +30s button a few times. Not sure how any podcasts make money. I get people are

How do podcasts help? I skip every ad on every podcast I listen to. I click the +30s button a few times. Not sure how any podcasts make money. I get people are paying for ads. I'm curious if there is any proof they work. podcasts are to spoken word as tivo was to TV, in both one killer feature was skipping the ads.