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>I worked on fintech projects in Europe I don't see the problem, buy HP Enterprise Hardware (Support is based in Czech Republic), install Suse for example (but

by nix23 6y ago

>I worked on fintech projects in Europe I don't see the problem, buy HP Enterprise Hardware (Support is based in Czech Republic), install Suse for example (but not RedHat), ask a Data-center of your wish, place your Hardware there make your own 'cloud'...profit?

Sebb767 6y ago
I don't know how much access they have, but SUSE has quite a few people working from the US.
- nix23 6y ago
  Yes but HQ is in Nürnberg Germany, and so is the DPO: https://www.suse.com/de-de/company/legal/ https://www.suse.com/de-de/company/legal/ Its not about where some people work, it's what they do under witch legality, so a US citizen working in Germany or for German Customers "could" be a problem.
  - Sebb767 6y ago
    Thanks for the clarification!
  - raverbashing 6y ago
    > so a US citizen working in Germany or for German Customers "could" be a problem. That's usually fine (related to the "in Germany" part). I'd say you'll only have an issue if you're doing something really high up the government (same as for example SpaceX - which cannot hire non-citizens)
    - nix23 6y ago
      Or Finance... ;)
    - rtsil 6y ago
      > for example SpaceX - which cannot hire non-citizens They can, actually. It's just tons of paperwork and red tape so they won't.
dgellow 6y ago
As I said, it’s definitely possible. We did create and maintain our own clusters. That’s way more expensive and time consuming than using existing offering from public clouds, and you are in your own in case of issues. Your competitors who don’t have that kind of requirements can build and iterate on their products way faster.
- terom 6y ago
  This. Worst-case you end up being forced to use some terribly implemented private cloud solution which ends up being even more expensive and time consuming than deploying your own hardware.
  - smartbit 6y ago
    k8s to the rescue ;-)
    - dgellow 6y ago
      I don’t know if you’re joking or not, in the case of those fintech projects I’ve been part of a migration to k8s. That was already in progress 3 years ago when I joined the company, and it wasn’t completed when I left beginning of this year. Managing your own k8s in production isn’t a simple task at all :(
      - nix23 6y ago
        That is true, i was asked to implement k8s in 6 month, they said so i have plenty of time to find all problem (i try'd really hard not to start laughing)
  - nix23 6y ago
    >Worst-case Then implement it very well, you know like you should do it with the base when you build a House.
- nix23 6y ago
  >That’s way more expensive I had the pure opposite compared to AWS, with own Cloud we safe d around 80% expenses, calculated with additional manpower about 35%...but still 35% is really something.

by nix23 6y ago

Sebb767 6y ago

I don't know how much access they have, but SUSE has quite a few people working from the US.

nix23 6y ago
Yes but HQ is in Nürnberg Germany, and so is the DPO: https://www.suse.com/de-de/company/legal/ https://www.suse.com/de-de/company/legal/ Its not about where some people work, it's what they do under witch legality, so a US citizen working in Germany or for German Customers "could" be a problem.
- Sebb767 6y ago
  Thanks for the clarification!
- raverbashing 6y ago
  > so a US citizen working in Germany or for German Customers "could" be a problem. That's usually fine (related to the "in Germany" part). I'd say you'll only have an issue if you're doing something really high up the government (same as for example SpaceX - which cannot hire non-citizens)
  - nix23 6y ago
    Or Finance... ;)
  - rtsil 6y ago
    > for example SpaceX - which cannot hire non-citizens They can, actually. It's just tons of paperwork and red tape so they won't.

dgellow 6y ago

As I said, it’s definitely possible. We did create and maintain our own clusters. That’s way more expensive and time consuming than using existing offering from public clouds, and you are in your own in case of issues. Your competitors who don’t have that kind of requirements can build and iterate on their products way faster.

terom 6y ago
This. Worst-case you end up being forced to use some terribly implemented private cloud solution which ends up being even more expensive and time consuming than deploying your own hardware.
- smartbit 6y ago
  k8s to the rescue ;-)
  - dgellow 6y ago
    I don’t know if you’re joking or not, in the case of those fintech projects I’ve been part of a migration to k8s. That was already in progress 3 years ago when I joined the company, and it wasn’t completed when I left beginning of this year. Managing your own k8s in production isn’t a simple task at all :(
    - nix23 6y ago
      That is true, i was asked to implement k8s in 6 month, they said so i have plenty of time to find all problem (i try'd really hard not to start laughing)
- nix23 6y ago
  >Worst-case Then implement it very well, you know like you should do it with the base when you build a House.
nix23 6y ago
>That’s way more expensive I had the pure opposite compared to AWS, with own Cloud we safe d around 80% expenses, calculated with additional manpower about 35%...but still 35% is really something.