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Opposition to a national ID is one of the rare subjects on which the left and right tend to agree, but for different reasons. Here's the ACLU's thoughts on the

by js2 6y ago

Opposition to a national ID is one of the rare subjects on which the left and right tend to agree, but for different reasons. Here's the ACLU's thoughts on the matter: https://www.aclu.org/other/5-problems-national-id-cards https://www.aclu.org/other/5-problems-national-id-cards The NRA links to a few articles in opposition: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20020515/we-don-t-need-no-stinkin-national-id https://www.nraila.org/articles/20020515/we-don-t-need-no-st... https://www.nraila.org/articles/20041222/do-we-need-a-national-id-card https://www.nraila.org/articles/20041222/do-we-need-a-nation... https://www.nraila.org/articles/20020711/reviving-a-de-facto-national-id https://www.nraila.org/articles/20020711/reviving-a-de-facto... Here's an opinion piece Fox News ran in opposition: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/5-reasons-why-america-should-steer-clear-of-a-national-id-card https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/5-reasons-why-america-should...

aaomidi 6y ago
Before I start, just so you know I'm very much on the left. We shouldn't be wanting a stronger central government. A national ID system is a stronger central government. The federal government's job is oversight. That should be the extent of their influence. So yeah thank you for sharing that link. ACLU has the right idea.
stjohnswarts 6y ago
which is actually quite hilarious because the Feds have everything already SSN, taxes, census, FICA, real id and on and on. I never understood the logic behind people doing that stuff quite willingly and then freaking out over a national ID, which we pretty already much have given there is a federal program to get your state ID hooked up into the federal system.
jhanschoo 6y ago
How does identification for federal services online work?
- js2 6y ago
  Varies by service. I can't login to the social security website to get my statements, so, not very well in some cases. I locked myself out trying to prove my identity which basically amounts to providing information from your credit report. To unlock the account, I'll have to visit a social security office and they'll apparently give me a one-time code. I haven't cared enough to go through the pain of doing this yet.
Fjolsvith 6y ago
Plus, it would make human trafficking harder.

by js2 6y ago

aaomidi 6y ago

Before I start, just so you know I'm very much on the left. We shouldn't be wanting a stronger central government. A national ID system is a stronger central government. The federal government's job is oversight. That should be the extent of their influence. So yeah thank you for sharing that link. ACLU has the right idea.

stjohnswarts 6y ago

which is actually quite hilarious because the Feds have everything already SSN, taxes, census, FICA, real id and on and on. I never understood the logic behind people doing that stuff quite willingly and then freaking out over a national ID, which we pretty already much have given there is a federal program to get your state ID hooked up into the federal system.

jhanschoo 6y ago

How does identification for federal services online work?

js2 6y ago
Varies by service. I can't login to the social security website to get my statements, so, not very well in some cases. I locked myself out trying to prove my identity which basically amounts to providing information from your credit report. To unlock the account, I'll have to visit a social security office and they'll apparently give me a one-time code. I haven't cared enough to go through the pain of doing this yet.

Fjolsvith 6y ago

Plus, it would make human trafficking harder.