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Is this data sharing a consequence of RealID, or were these requests made independently of that?
by Rebelgecko 6y ago
Is this data sharing a consequence of RealID, or were these requests made independently of that?
- toomuchtodo 6y agoThis is independent of RealID and a consequence of the census department not asking citizenship questions during the most recent 2020 census. New York state declined, and is having Global Entry signups from that state rejected by DHS [1]. Edit: @crooked-v: Agreed, the administration found a straightforward way to the data other than via the census dept (it boggles the mind that people thought the federal government wouldn’t or couldn’t aggregate this data, remember when they withheld federal highway dollars to extort states into raising the drinking age?). Throttled by HN, can’t reply directly to your comment. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/us/politics/dhs-new-york-global-entry.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/us/politics/dhs-new-york-...
- crooked-v 6y ago> a consequence of the census department not asking citizenship questions The purpose of the US Census has never been to determine citizenship. It's also fundamentally useless for that purpose, as not only is it entirely self-reported data, but it also cannot legally be accessed by other parts of the government until 72 years after that census is taken.
- minerjoe 6y ago"Legally" But the power stucture doesn't seem to care very much about law. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/04/03/secret-use-of-census-info-helped-send-japanese-americans-to-internment-camps-in-wwii/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/04/03...
- kevin_thibedeau 6y agoIt has to be accessible to the people drawing gerrymandered districts. Exfiltrating that is childs play.
- hnlurker 6y agoWrong. See 14A, S2. Gender and citizenship are both constitutionally required data points for census.