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I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat support

I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat supporters.

talaketu 6y ago
That's an amazing stack of assertions you have there.
- boringg 6y ago
  Full stack
icedistilled 6y ago
I'm pretty sure most billionaires support the GOP. I don't have a citation. But neither did you. Let's not turn HN into a hodgepodge of wild unbacked claims. That's what reddit is for.
- Thorentis 6y ago
  Gates, Bezos, Zucckerburg, etc. etc. I was talking mostly about tech billionaires, should've made that clearer.
  - redisman 6y ago
    Liberal billionaires are liberal. How deep
  - ballarak 6y ago
    Bezos is a conservative. Amazon as a company is also conservative-leaning. If you look at Amazon's PAC, most of their donations go to the GOP.
  - icedistilled 6y ago
    Well that's wrong too. I'm not sure the FB counts as democratic. At best he's big shades of gray with contradicting indications. Out of the top four richest tech billionaires, according to forbes, only one of them is not most likely conservative and that one tries to stay out of politics, i.e. bill gates. The next two have clear conservative leanings or contradicting indications, i.e. Bezos and Zuck. Number four is Larry Ellison, who recently hosted a trump fundraiser. Well here is what wikipedia has on him: Politics Ellison was critical of NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden, saying that "Snowden had yet to identify a single person who had been 'wrongly injured' by the NSA's data collection".[85] He has donated to both Democratic and Republican politicians,[86] and in late 2014 hosted Republican Senator Rand Paul at a fundraiser at his home.[87][88] Ellison was one of the top donors to Conservative Solutions PAC, a super PAC supporting Marco Rubio's 2016 presidential bid. As of February 2016, Ellison had given $4 million overall to the PAC.[89] In 2020, Ellison hosted a fundraiser for Donald Trump at his Rancho Mirage estate.[90][91]
- blisseyGo 6y ago
  1. Most want cheap foreign labour via H1b Visas which is currently more of a democrat thing (it's republican thing too but Trump is avoiding that right now). They claim they like diversity but it's actually just importing H1B visas who basically get exploited by the companies because if they don't over perform, then they don't get promoted and therefore get fired leading them to get deported back. This is also why these companies have the "get promoted every 1-2 years or you are fired". 2. Most don't publicly support GOP because they don't want to get cancelled. PREFERENCE FALSIFICATION: Preference falsification is the act of misrepresenting one’s wants under perceived social pressures.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat supporters. Most billionaires and large corporations have connections in, and make donations to, both major parties. The people who are critical of billionaires and corporations tend to also be the people that point out that the dominant faction of the Democratic Party (less sophisticated members of the critical group will shorten this to just the Democratic Party, without making the factional distinction) has for decades been, in economic policy terms, a center-right pro-corporate neoliberal group, not a progressive one.
WhompingWindows 6y ago
Simple, billionaires are usually Democratic because they tend to come from liberal backgrounds in liberal areas: Zuckerberg, Gates, or anyone who's come up through universities recently is younger and thus more Democratic leaning. It's really a case of demographics.

I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat supporters.

talaketu 6y ago

That's an amazing stack of assertions you have there.

boringg 6y ago
Full stack

icedistilled 6y ago

I'm pretty sure most billionaires support the GOP. I don't have a citation. But neither did you. Let's not turn HN into a hodgepodge of wild unbacked claims. That's what reddit is for.

Thorentis 6y ago
Gates, Bezos, Zucckerburg, etc. etc. I was talking mostly about tech billionaires, should've made that clearer.
- redisman 6y ago
  Liberal billionaires are liberal. How deep
- ballarak 6y ago
  Bezos is a conservative. Amazon as a company is also conservative-leaning. If you look at Amazon's PAC, most of their donations go to the GOP.
- icedistilled 6y ago
  Well that's wrong too. I'm not sure the FB counts as democratic. At best he's big shades of gray with contradicting indications. Out of the top four richest tech billionaires, according to forbes, only one of them is not most likely conservative and that one tries to stay out of politics, i.e. bill gates. The next two have clear conservative leanings or contradicting indications, i.e. Bezos and Zuck. Number four is Larry Ellison, who recently hosted a trump fundraiser. Well here is what wikipedia has on him: Politics Ellison was critical of NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden, saying that "Snowden had yet to identify a single person who had been 'wrongly injured' by the NSA's data collection".[85] He has donated to both Democratic and Republican politicians,[86] and in late 2014 hosted Republican Senator Rand Paul at a fundraiser at his home.[87][88] Ellison was one of the top donors to Conservative Solutions PAC, a super PAC supporting Marco Rubio's 2016 presidential bid. As of February 2016, Ellison had given $4 million overall to the PAC.[89] In 2020, Ellison hosted a fundraiser for Donald Trump at his Rancho Mirage estate.[90][91]
blisseyGo 6y ago
1. Most want cheap foreign labour via H1b Visas which is currently more of a democrat thing (it's republican thing too but Trump is avoiding that right now). They claim they like diversity but it's actually just importing H1B visas who basically get exploited by the companies because if they don't over perform, then they don't get promoted and therefore get fired leading them to get deported back. This is also why these companies have the "get promoted every 1-2 years or you are fired". 2. Most don't publicly support GOP because they don't want to get cancelled. PREFERENCE FALSIFICATION: Preference falsification is the act of misrepresenting one’s wants under perceived social pressures.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat supporters. Most billionaires and large corporations have connections in, and make donations to, both major parties. The people who are critical of billionaires and corporations tend to also be the people that point out that the dominant faction of the Democratic Party (less sophisticated members of the critical group will shorten this to just the Democratic Party, without making the factional distinction) has for decades been, in economic policy terms, a center-right pro-corporate neoliberal group, not a progressive one.

WhompingWindows 6y ago

Simple, billionaires are usually Democratic because they tend to come from liberal backgrounds in liberal areas: Zuckerberg, Gates, or anyone who's come up through universities recently is younger and thus more Democratic leaning. It's really a case of demographics.