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We have a flu vaccine that millions take every year and it works. That is why we don't lose our shit over the flu. Your most stable solution to the problem is

We have a flu vaccine that millions take every year and it works. That is why we don't lose our shit over the flu. Your most stable solution to the problem is reasonable (build widespread population immunity), but your actual solution is to try and achieve it as quickly as possible by just letting the virus spread without any measures to slow the spread. That is not reasonable.

__blockcipher__ 6y ago
What is your concern about uninhibited spread? Do you feel that, even given the existing seroprevalence, we could not lift all restrictions without risking overwhelming our healthcare system, which more-or-less never happened even during the peak?
- hcknwscommenter 6y ago
  which more or less actually definitely did happen. People in NYC definitely died because they didn't get a ventilator or a dialysis machine on time. Doctors and Nurses actually died trying to treat COVID patients without proper PPE because of shortages. That actually happened. Your willful blindness to these actual facts is sickening.
  - __blockcipher__ 6y ago
    Nobody died due to lack of a ventilator. Please prove your claims.
    - hcknwscommenter 6y ago
      That is simply untrue. literally one second of googling: Proof: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/ventilator-shortage-new-york-hospitals-coronavirus https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/ventilator-sh... The money quote, which completely refutes your entire nonsense argument: “The other day I felt defeated. The patient came in on a code. We looked at each other. The patient had to die. There was nothing we could do.” Any feelings of guilt were upended by the next patient to come through the doors when they had to tell EMS they had no ventilators. EMS said they had nowhere else to go. The patient died."

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We have a flu vaccine that millions take every year and it works. That is why we don't lose our shit over the flu. Your most stable solution to the problem is

by hcknwscommenter 6y ago

__blockcipher__ 6y ago
What is your concern about uninhibited spread? Do you feel that, even given the existing seroprevalence, we could not lift all restrictions without risking overwhelming our healthcare system, which more-or-less never happened even during the peak?
- hcknwscommenter 6y ago
  which more or less actually definitely did happen. People in NYC definitely died because they didn't get a ventilator or a dialysis machine on time. Doctors and Nurses actually died trying to treat COVID patients without proper PPE because of shortages. That actually happened. Your willful blindness to these actual facts is sickening.
  - __blockcipher__ 6y ago
    Nobody died due to lack of a ventilator. Please prove your claims.
    - hcknwscommenter 6y ago
      That is simply untrue. literally one second of googling: Proof: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/ventilator-shortage-new-york-hospitals-coronavirus https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/ventilator-sh... The money quote, which completely refutes your entire nonsense argument: “The other day I felt defeated. The patient came in on a code. We looked at each other. The patient had to die. There was nothing we could do.” Any feelings of guilt were upended by the next patient to come through the doors when they had to tell EMS they had no ventilators. EMS said they had nowhere else to go. The patient died."