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I think you read far too deep into things you don't like, and try to find something to be upset about. It's kind of the national pastime these days, it seems.
by Alupis 6y ago
I think you read far too deep into things you don't like, and try to find something to be upset about. It's kind of the national pastime these days, it seems.
No nation is going to start killing people because of a Tweet. Be realistic.
It detracts from your otherwise valid points when paranoia and blind hatred overshadow your arguments.
The number of posts you've made about the leader of a foreign nation is astonishing. Are there zero domestic problems to be fired up about?
> You again?
I guess I could say the same. Touché.
- jacquesm 6y agoThere is nothing blind about it, I've been following this closely for 3+ years and you have to be absolutely blind to still think this is all business as usual. Your country is being wrecked, make no mistake about it. A direct line from an unstable leader to a 40% fraction of the population in a country rife with weapons is a potential disaster.
- Alupis 6y agoSorry, but you don't have the actual insight necessary to understand the complicated local politics of a foreign country. I understand it's become some sort of sport... but it's quite unproductive since you cannot possibly be expected to fully understand all the intricacies of foreign politics. Heck, citizens born and raised in this country have a hard enough time understanding it all too. I think we should leave it at that. Nobody here criticized the leaders of your nation, because we would not be qualified to pass judgement on foreign politics. Neither are you.
- jacquesm 6y ago> Sorry, but you don't have the actual insight necessary to understand the complicated local politics of a foreign country. I've lived in Canada and the United States, I ran a business there and I have more American friends than European ones. I think I'm perfectly capable of understanding American politics. Likely I know more about your political system and it's idiosyncrasies as well as how the legal system works than a large number of Americans. You're more than welcome to criticize the leaders of my nation with cause. But you likely won't even know their names.
- Alupis 6y ago> I think I'm perfectly capable of understanding American politics You're making wild assertions based on supposition and nothing else. Worse, you're using deliberately spun articles to support your nonfactual assertions. You're getting all worked up about leaders of a foreign nation, that literally have nothing to do with you or have any impact on you. Trump said mean stuff on Twitter so people thousands of miles away should engage? > You're more than welcome to criticize the leaders of my nation with cause. But you likely won't even know their names. No I don't, and I don't care. How your nation governs itself is your nation's business, and the entire point I'm making. It's OK to ask questions, or wonder aloud... but to pretend to have a deep understanding and an authoritative judgement on foreign affairs, based on clearly biased opinions disguised as facts is simply unbecoming and devastatingly unproductive. What you are engaging in is sport... not a civil discourse.
- jacquesm 6y ago> Worse, you're using deliberately spun articles to support your nonfactual assertions. Argue the facts then, not the source. > Trump said mean stuff on Twitter so people thousands of miles away should engage? Trump said mean stuff on Twitter that has resulted in my friends being more at risk than they should be, people I care about getting gravely ill and quite possibly will result in one or more of them dying. If this sounds like 'fun and games' or a spectator sport to you then I'm sorry, I am not amused. > You're getting all worked up about leaders of a foreign nation, that literally have nothing to do with you or have any impact on you. America and the American economy impact the world. > No I don't, and I don't care. That's fine by me, but that is your choice and I have made my choice different. The United States well being concerns lots of people outside of the United States. That is the kind of responsibility that comes with being a superpower, like it or not. > How your nation governs itself is your nation's business, and the entire point I'm making. And yet, if a foreigner would have something useful to say we'd likely listen. Because typically outside perspective is worth a couple of IQ points. > It's OK to ask questions, or wonder aloud... but to pretend to have a deep understanding and an authoritative judgement on foreign affairs, based on clearly biased opinions disguised as facts is simply unbecoming and devastatingly unproductive. And that is your opinion. The whole idea that the media can no longer be trusted unless they clap in sync with the Trump marching orders is ridiculous. If you want some problematic media look no further than Fox news or Breitbart. > What you are engaging in is sport... not a civil discourse. So you keep saying. But it isn't a sport to me, it is deadly serious. And lots of American lives are on the line proving that on a daily basis.
- burfog 6y agoYou've been "following this closely for 3+ years" through the lens of a group of people (journalists) who have political views that are strongly in opposition to that leader. Of course they would tell you that he is unstable, that he is wreaking the country, and so on. Those journalists are even employed by companies that want access to large and powerful countries that dislike a US leader who isn't a pushover in trade negotiations. Given those facts, it would be shocking if you got a fair view of the matter.