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You say they'd target POTUS but of the very high profile accounts it's so far billionaires, corporations and democrat politicians. Does make you wonder.

Thorentis 6y ago
I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat supporters.
- talaketu 6y ago
  That's an amazing stack of assertions you have there.
  - boringg 6y ago
    Full stack
- icedistilled 6y ago
  I'm pretty sure most billionaires support the GOP. I don't have a citation. But neither did you. Let's not turn HN into a hodgepodge of wild unbacked claims. That's what reddit is for.
  - Thorentis 6y ago
    Gates, Bezos, Zucckerburg, etc. etc. I was talking mostly about tech billionaires, should've made that clearer.
    - redisman 6y ago
      Liberal billionaires are liberal. How deep
    - ballarak 6y ago
      Bezos is a conservative. Amazon as a company is also conservative-leaning. If you look at Amazon's PAC, most of their donations go to the GOP.
    - icedistilled 6y ago
      Well that's wrong too. I'm not sure the FB counts as democratic. At best he's big shades of gray with contradicting indications. Out of the top four richest tech billionaires, according to forbes, only one of them is not most likely conservative and that one tries to stay out of politics, i.e. bill gates. The next two have clear conservative leanings or contradicting indications, i.e. Bezos and Zuck. Number four is Larry Ellison, who recently hosted a trump fundraiser. Well here is what wikipedia has on him: Politics Ellison was critical of NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden, saying that "Snowden had yet to identify a single person who had been 'wrongly injured' by the NSA's data collection".[85] He has donated to both Democratic and Republican politicians,[86] and in late 2014 hosted Republican Senator Rand Paul at a fundraiser at his home.[87][88] Ellison was one of the top donors to Conservative Solutions PAC, a super PAC supporting Marco Rubio's 2016 presidential bid. As of February 2016, Ellison had given $4 million overall to the PAC.[89] In 2020, Ellison hosted a fundraiser for Donald Trump at his Rancho Mirage estate.[90][91]
  - blisseyGo 6y ago
    1. Most want cheap foreign labour via H1b Visas which is currently more of a democrat thing (it's republican thing too but Trump is avoiding that right now). They claim they like diversity but it's actually just importing H1B visas who basically get exploited by the companies because if they don't over perform, then they don't get promoted and therefore get fired leading them to get deported back. This is also why these companies have the "get promoted every 1-2 years or you are fired". 2. Most don't publicly support GOP because they don't want to get cancelled. PREFERENCE FALSIFICATION: Preference falsification is the act of misrepresenting one’s wants under perceived social pressures.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat supporters. Most billionaires and large corporations have connections in, and make donations to, both major parties. The people who are critical of billionaires and corporations tend to also be the people that point out that the dominant faction of the Democratic Party (less sophisticated members of the critical group will shorten this to just the Democratic Party, without making the factional distinction) has for decades been, in economic policy terms, a center-right pro-corporate neoliberal group, not a progressive one.
- WhompingWindows 6y ago
  Simple, billionaires are usually Democratic because they tend to come from liberal backgrounds in liberal areas: Zuckerberg, Gates, or anyone who's come up through universities recently is younger and thus more Democratic leaning. It's really a case of demographics.
metrokoi 6y ago
The POTUS account likely has more additional security than normal accounts.
- zucker42 6y ago
  Like what?
  - drak0n1c 6y ago
    The account was vandalized in the past by a rogue employee, they probably added more controls since then.
  - smsm42 6y ago
    Maybe not everybody with internal tools can mess with it. Because somebody with internal tools already messed with it before and it didn't look very well for twitter. So if there's anybody with brains there they probably made some measures so it won't happen again.
- GhostVII 6y ago
  Not sure why you are being downvoted given that this is probably correct? Sounds like the attack was through an admin portal. Given that Trump was one of the few high profile accounts not targeted, it seems like the attackers were not able to access his account through that portal. And his Twitter has been attacked by employees before so Twitter probably locked it down so employees can't modify it.
  - Akronymus 6y ago
    Could you elaborate on twitter employees attacking his account? This is the first time I read about that.
    - coolspot 6y ago
      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=twitter+employee+trump+account&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=twitter+employee+trump+account&ia=... https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/30/former-twitter-employee-who-deleted-trumps-account-it-was-a-mistake.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/30/former-twitter-employee-who-...

Thorentis 6y ago

I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat supporters.

talaketu 6y ago
That's an amazing stack of assertions you have there.
- boringg 6y ago
  Full stack
icedistilled 6y ago
I'm pretty sure most billionaires support the GOP. I don't have a citation. But neither did you. Let's not turn HN into a hodgepodge of wild unbacked claims. That's what reddit is for.
- Thorentis 6y ago
  Gates, Bezos, Zucckerburg, etc. etc. I was talking mostly about tech billionaires, should've made that clearer.
  - redisman 6y ago
    Liberal billionaires are liberal. How deep
  - ballarak 6y ago
    Bezos is a conservative. Amazon as a company is also conservative-leaning. If you look at Amazon's PAC, most of their donations go to the GOP.
  - icedistilled 6y ago
    Well that's wrong too. I'm not sure the FB counts as democratic. At best he's big shades of gray with contradicting indications. Out of the top four richest tech billionaires, according to forbes, only one of them is not most likely conservative and that one tries to stay out of politics, i.e. bill gates. The next two have clear conservative leanings or contradicting indications, i.e. Bezos and Zuck. Number four is Larry Ellison, who recently hosted a trump fundraiser. Well here is what wikipedia has on him: Politics Ellison was critical of NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden, saying that "Snowden had yet to identify a single person who had been 'wrongly injured' by the NSA's data collection".[85] He has donated to both Democratic and Republican politicians,[86] and in late 2014 hosted Republican Senator Rand Paul at a fundraiser at his home.[87][88] Ellison was one of the top donors to Conservative Solutions PAC, a super PAC supporting Marco Rubio's 2016 presidential bid. As of February 2016, Ellison had given $4 million overall to the PAC.[89] In 2020, Ellison hosted a fundraiser for Donald Trump at his Rancho Mirage estate.[90][91]
- blisseyGo 6y ago
  1. Most want cheap foreign labour via H1b Visas which is currently more of a democrat thing (it's republican thing too but Trump is avoiding that right now). They claim they like diversity but it's actually just importing H1B visas who basically get exploited by the companies because if they don't over perform, then they don't get promoted and therefore get fired leading them to get deported back. This is also why these companies have the "get promoted every 1-2 years or you are fired". 2. Most don't publicly support GOP because they don't want to get cancelled. PREFERENCE FALSIFICATION: Preference falsification is the act of misrepresenting one’s wants under perceived social pressures.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> I'm constantly amazed that people who are critical of billionaires and corporations, never wonder why billionaires and corporations are usually democrat supporters. Most billionaires and large corporations have connections in, and make donations to, both major parties. The people who are critical of billionaires and corporations tend to also be the people that point out that the dominant faction of the Democratic Party (less sophisticated members of the critical group will shorten this to just the Democratic Party, without making the factional distinction) has for decades been, in economic policy terms, a center-right pro-corporate neoliberal group, not a progressive one.
WhompingWindows 6y ago
Simple, billionaires are usually Democratic because they tend to come from liberal backgrounds in liberal areas: Zuckerberg, Gates, or anyone who's come up through universities recently is younger and thus more Democratic leaning. It's really a case of demographics.

metrokoi 6y ago

The POTUS account likely has more additional security than normal accounts.

zucker42 6y ago
Like what?
- drak0n1c 6y ago
  The account was vandalized in the past by a rogue employee, they probably added more controls since then.
- smsm42 6y ago
  Maybe not everybody with internal tools can mess with it. Because somebody with internal tools already messed with it before and it didn't look very well for twitter. So if there's anybody with brains there they probably made some measures so it won't happen again.
GhostVII 6y ago
Not sure why you are being downvoted given that this is probably correct? Sounds like the attack was through an admin portal. Given that Trump was one of the few high profile accounts not targeted, it seems like the attackers were not able to access his account through that portal. And his Twitter has been attacked by employees before so Twitter probably locked it down so employees can't modify it.
- Akronymus 6y ago
  Could you elaborate on twitter employees attacking his account? This is the first time I read about that.
  - coolspot 6y ago
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=twitter+employee+trump+account&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=twitter+employee+trump+account&ia=... https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/30/former-twitter-employee-who-deleted-trumps-account-it-was-a-mistake.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/30/former-twitter-employee-who-...