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It's a very interesting line of thinking when a government that allows a company to incorporate, protects the company's physical and intellectual property by fo

It's a very interesting line of thinking when a government that allows a company to incorporate, protects the company's physical and intellectual property by force and with a large legal apparatus, enforces the company's contracts, trains the company's workers, is somehow considered a robber when they ask the company to pay taxes.

Joky 6y ago
> trains the company's workers How much of these products are designed and built in these Europeans countries though?
JoshTriplett 6y ago
> allows a company to incorporate Leaving aside cases of companies that actually have legal entities in a location (such as Apple), the comment that started this sub-thread was about companies that don't necessarily have any nexus in a location, and just provide services to people regardless of where those people are.
fidelramos 6y ago
$13b seem to me an outrageous bill for those services. Could we see an itemized bill to make sure we are not overpaying the state? Or is it more like they have the monopoly of violence and we have to pay whatever they want or else?
- allendoerfer 6y ago
  > Or is it more like they have the monopoly of violence and we have to pay whatever they want or else? You have to switch we and they. We are not Apple, but we are the people of a state.
  - fidelramos 6y ago
    I too have to pay whatever taxes the state determines, so I think "we" is the right pronoun here.
ghostwriter 6y ago
Who is "asking" and who is "taking" in the scenario you mention? The whole notion of "allowing to incorporate", in terms of basic freedoms that a modern society is supposed to maintain and protect, contradicts with the freedom of peaceful assembly and the freedom of association with others, including the right to form and to join trade unions. This form of right should never require a sanction from a state.

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It's a very interesting line of thinking when a government that allows a company to incorporate, protects the company's physical and intellectual property by fo

by cool_dude85 6y ago

Joky 6y ago
> trains the company's workers How much of these products are designed and built in these Europeans countries though?
JoshTriplett 6y ago
> allows a company to incorporate Leaving aside cases of companies that actually have legal entities in a location (such as Apple), the comment that started this sub-thread was about companies that don't necessarily have any nexus in a location, and just provide services to people regardless of where those people are.
fidelramos 6y ago
$13b seem to me an outrageous bill for those services. Could we see an itemized bill to make sure we are not overpaying the state? Or is it more like they have the monopoly of violence and we have to pay whatever they want or else?
- allendoerfer 6y ago
  > Or is it more like they have the monopoly of violence and we have to pay whatever they want or else? You have to switch we and they. We are not Apple, but we are the people of a state.
  - fidelramos 6y ago
    I too have to pay whatever taxes the state determines, so I think "we" is the right pronoun here.
ghostwriter 6y ago
Who is "asking" and who is "taking" in the scenario you mention? The whole notion of "allowing to incorporate", in terms of basic freedoms that a modern society is supposed to maintain and protect, contradicts with the freedom of peaceful assembly and the freedom of association with others, including the right to form and to join trade unions. This form of right should never require a sanction from a state.