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> Wait! i have multiples solutions. ... I think those are reasonable measures. > But closing a nuclear plant to replace it by gas (and coal, even if temporary

by onli 6y ago

> Wait! i have multiples solutions. ... I think those are reasonable measures. > But closing a nuclear plant to replace it by gas (and coal, even if temporary) is easier. I assume you'd be less angry if you were aware that I oppose that as well. I think it's in general opposed by the people wanting nuclear energy to end. Talking mostly about Germany here. The process basically was 1) Have a strong agreement that nuclear energy is bad, fueled by its insecurity, costs and the waste it produces. This is driven by grassroots movements and green parties. 2) Conservative politicians say "Okay, then we replace them with coal. Oh, and we cut the subventions for renewable energies." 3) The same people that organized the successful protest against the nuclear plants now organize protests against the coal plants. No one is happy about that process. The only good thing that came out of it is the higher usage of renewable energies. And that because of that the coal plants now are unprofitable. But that is partly despite what the conservative politicians wanted. They even blocked the building of new wind turbines because they look bad. Exactly the contrary of what had to happen the last two years.

funcDropShadow 6y ago
You are missing the last step. The same people that oppose nuclear and coal energy oppose updating the power grid such that all the wind turbines, already installed, can all be used at the same time. This is the most ridiculous part of the climate activists in Germany, imho. Yes, Germany has already more renewable energy sources than it can use, due to protests against building new power lines. From north to south and west to east. When I drive to my in-laws, I come along at least a hundred large wind turbines, often in rows of ten or more. Usually, half of them is turned off because, the grid cannot take more energy. At the German energy exchange, the price of electrical energy already dropped below zero several times, because of that.
- onli 6y ago
  > The same people that oppose nuclear and coal energy oppose updating the power grid such that all the wind turbines, already installed That's not correct. The Nord-Süd-Trasse for example was blocked by the CSU, which is a classic nuclear/coal-proponent. See https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suedlink https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suedlink.

by onli 6y ago

funcDropShadow 6y ago

You are missing the last step. The same people that oppose nuclear and coal energy oppose updating the power grid such that all the wind turbines, already installed, can all be used at the same time. This is the most ridiculous part of the climate activists in Germany, imho. Yes, Germany has already more renewable energy sources than it can use, due to protests against building new power lines. From north to south and west to east. When I drive to my in-laws, I come along at least a hundred large wind turbines, often in rows of ten or more. Usually, half of them is turned off because, the grid cannot take more energy. At the German energy exchange, the price of electrical energy already dropped below zero several times, because of that.

onli 6y ago
> The same people that oppose nuclear and coal energy oppose updating the power grid such that all the wind turbines, already installed That's not correct. The Nord-Süd-Trasse for example was blocked by the CSU, which is a classic nuclear/coal-proponent. See https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suedlink https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suedlink.