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There are 4 kinds of lies. Lies Damn lies Statistics Selectively chosen video snippets

gruez 6y ago
Are there video snippets out there that show a different story? Or is this just a general plea of "well we don't know the whole story so we should reserve judgement until later(when everyone has forgotten about it)"? "Lies" implies there's an intent to deceive, but most of these cases the reason why the rest of the footage isn't available is because people only start recording when things go south, so everything leading up to the event inevitably gets left out. That's very different than "Selectively chosen video snippets", which imply that somewhere there's footage of the whole incident, but anti-police activists are editing the footage to generate maximum outrage. It also doesn't help that some police officers think that recording is an act of aggression, further making the footage harder to acquire.
- RickJWagner 6y ago
  Use Google, check for 'New York Cops attacked'. You should find several reputable news sites showing police officers being attacked and beaten. Watch for yourself. Decide where you think the truth lies. I think I could videotape just about any street fight and selectively choose when and for how long to show a clip to fit an agenda....
  - xtiansimon 6y ago
    > "Watch for yourself. Decide where you think the truth lies." Capital "T" truth does not lie solely in a video clip. Just as with _literally everything_ online and everything digital, we need to be good _consumers_. In the case of the George Floyd killing the is a witness video (over 10 minutes), security camera video (over 5 minutes), plus officer body camera. These of course have POV issues, audio issues which need to be considered. Despite these defects, there is the narrative of Officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd's neck for over 8 minutes, which is evidence of the cause of Mr Floyd's death. I have yet to read any comments here which take seriously how this firehose of brutality videos should be consumed--let alone making _any_ decisions about "truth". When I was a young adult, the biggest issue concerning the internet was the potential danger of anonymous people online. Post Facebook, the danger was putting something online now, that you'll regret later. Today, impact of the videos from the George Floyd killing is enormous. What about the next video? I would like to hear more about thoughts on consuming videos, and presumed truth of any video. And watching just some of those videos was sickening. All of this violence is sickening.

Are there video snippets out there that show a different story? Or is this just a general plea of "well we don't know the whole story so we should reserve judgement until later(when everyone has forgotten about it)"? "Lies" implies there's an intent to deceive, but most of these cases the reason why the rest of the footage isn't available is because people only start recording when things go south, so everything leading up to the event inevitably gets left out. That's very different than "Selectively chosen video snippets", which imply that somewhere there's footage of the whole incident, but anti-police activists are editing the footage to generate maximum outrage. It also doesn't help that some police officers think that recording is an act of aggression, further making the footage harder to acquire.

RickJWagner 6y ago
Use Google, check for 'New York Cops attacked'. You should find several reputable news sites showing police officers being attacked and beaten. Watch for yourself. Decide where you think the truth lies. I think I could videotape just about any street fight and selectively choose when and for how long to show a clip to fit an agenda....
- xtiansimon 6y ago
  > "Watch for yourself. Decide where you think the truth lies." Capital "T" truth does not lie solely in a video clip. Just as with _literally everything_ online and everything digital, we need to be good _consumers_. In the case of the George Floyd killing the is a witness video (over 10 minutes), security camera video (over 5 minutes), plus officer body camera. These of course have POV issues, audio issues which need to be considered. Despite these defects, there is the narrative of Officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd's neck for over 8 minutes, which is evidence of the cause of Mr Floyd's death. I have yet to read any comments here which take seriously how this firehose of brutality videos should be consumed--let alone making _any_ decisions about "truth". When I was a young adult, the biggest issue concerning the internet was the potential danger of anonymous people online. Post Facebook, the danger was putting something online now, that you'll regret later. Today, impact of the videos from the George Floyd killing is enormous. What about the next video? I would like to hear more about thoughts on consuming videos, and presumed truth of any video. And watching just some of those videos was sickening. All of this violence is sickening.