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I think it is clearly opposite: media in mazda is insanely hard to learn.

by ex3ndr 6y ago

gambiting 6y ago
I bet that Mazda is stupidly easy to get into, start, put it in gear and drive though, and I bet it will behave predictably on the road like a normal car would. Everything else is secondary. Teslas definitely have a learning curve if you have never driven one.
- ex3ndr 6y ago
  No, tesla behaves just like a normal car. Changing gear is the same as Mercedes, default settings makes tesla same as any other car. If you will change it's settings to something different than it is have to learn something. Chill Mode + No recuperation + no "one pedal driving" and you will get typical Mazda behavior. The biggest issue with tesla is that it is freaking powerful if you are moving from other car.
  - kbenson 6y ago
    > Chill Mode + No recuperation + no "one pedal driving" and you will get typical Mazda behavior. And how likely are you to get exactly that after receiving a rental that someone else has played with all the settings for? My guess is that the combined effect of rental agencies not taking the time to reset settings (bluetooth pairing is never empty on anything I rent) and people wanting to play with all the extra settings Tesla gives you means you more than likely receive a Tesla rental in a configuration that is not entirely the same as driving other cars.
    - brianwawok 6y ago
      Also, I don't think that is fully normal car driving. Does a normal car have a situation where you need to reboot the MCU (media control unit, basically the computer that powers the screen) in order to open the glovebox? Does a normal car have 2 ways to open the door, one of which damages the trim? Does a normal car have no obvious way to "lock" the doors when you leave? I am a _VERY_ happy Tesla owner as I said. There is still a lot to them that I think might be a bit much to throw on someone for a 1 day rental.
  - Rebelgecko 6y ago
    This doesn't sound like a normal car to me. I've never driven a car where doing the wrong thing on the infotainment screen would prevent the car from moving. Typically cars do it the other way around- if you're doing something you're not supposed to while driving, they just freeze or back you out of the infotainment screen but allow the car to move
    - brianwawok 6y ago
      To be clear, you can drive without the infotainment screen in most cases. You won't be able to see your gear nor your speed, but it should go forward.
wlesieutre 6y ago
Mazda gives you CarPlay / Android Auto and has buttons for things like climate control, I haven't driven one but I imagine it's a lot easier to drive without bothering to learn how the screen works at all. EDIT: though IIRC Mazda's screen isn't a touchscreen, so you need to figure out how to control CarPlay with the knob. Interaction is more like an old iPod than an iPhone. Perhaps less intuitive as a new user, but better for muscle memory so you can keep your eyes on the road?
- aidenn0 6y ago
  Mazda's screen is a touch-screen at least up to 2019; you can use the knob as well (and I exclusively use the knob because finger-prints make the screen unreadable when the sun is behind you).
  - wlesieutre 6y ago
    Looks like they started dropping touchscreens in 2019: https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-purging-touchscreens-from-its-vehicles https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-pur...
    - crooked-v 6y ago
      Also, along with dropping the touchscreens, they've gone on a hard bent towards keeping the "driving only" information on physically separate displays from the "infotainment" part. Pure vehicle operation stuff is always straight ahead for the driver, while navigation and music is always on a separate screen a little to the right.
    - aidenn0 6y ago
      That's interesting. My car (2019MY) must be a transition model because I have the 7-way controller in the center console, but the screen can still be touched.
      - wlesieutre 6y ago

I think it is clearly opposite: media in mazda is insanely hard to learn.

by ex3ndr 6y ago

I think it is clearly opposite: media in mazda is insanely hard to learn.

I bet that Mazda is stupidly easy to get into, start, put it in gear and drive though, and I bet it will behave predictably on the road like a normal car would. Everything else is secondary. Teslas definitely have a learning curve if you have never driven one.

ex3ndr 6y ago
No, tesla behaves just like a normal car. Changing gear is the same as Mercedes, default settings makes tesla same as any other car. If you will change it's settings to something different than it is have to learn something. Chill Mode + No recuperation + no "one pedal driving" and you will get typical Mazda behavior. The biggest issue with tesla is that it is freaking powerful if you are moving from other car.
- kbenson 6y ago
  > Chill Mode + No recuperation + no "one pedal driving" and you will get typical Mazda behavior. And how likely are you to get exactly that after receiving a rental that someone else has played with all the settings for? My guess is that the combined effect of rental agencies not taking the time to reset settings (bluetooth pairing is never empty on anything I rent) and people wanting to play with all the extra settings Tesla gives you means you more than likely receive a Tesla rental in a configuration that is not entirely the same as driving other cars.
  - brianwawok 6y ago
    Also, I don't think that is fully normal car driving. Does a normal car have a situation where you need to reboot the MCU (media control unit, basically the computer that powers the screen) in order to open the glovebox? Does a normal car have 2 ways to open the door, one of which damages the trim? Does a normal car have no obvious way to "lock" the doors when you leave? I am a _VERY_ happy Tesla owner as I said. There is still a lot to them that I think might be a bit much to throw on someone for a 1 day rental.
- Rebelgecko 6y ago
  This doesn't sound like a normal car to me. I've never driven a car where doing the wrong thing on the infotainment screen would prevent the car from moving. Typically cars do it the other way around- if you're doing something you're not supposed to while driving, they just freeze or back you out of the infotainment screen but allow the car to move
  - brianwawok 6y ago
    To be clear, you can drive without the infotainment screen in most cases. You won't be able to see your gear nor your speed, but it should go forward.

wlesieutre 6y ago

Mazda gives you CarPlay / Android Auto and has buttons for things like climate control, I haven't driven one but I imagine it's a lot easier to drive without bothering to learn how the screen works at all. EDIT: though IIRC Mazda's screen isn't a touchscreen, so you need to figure out how to control CarPlay with the knob. Interaction is more like an old iPod than an iPhone. Perhaps less intuitive as a new user, but better for muscle memory so you can keep your eyes on the road?

aidenn0 6y ago
Mazda's screen is a touch-screen at least up to 2019; you can use the knob as well (and I exclusively use the knob because finger-prints make the screen unreadable when the sun is behind you).
- wlesieutre 6y ago
  Looks like they started dropping touchscreens in 2019: https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-purging-touchscreens-from-its-vehicles https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-pur...
  - crooked-v 6y ago
    Also, along with dropping the touchscreens, they've gone on a hard bent towards keeping the "driving only" information on physically separate displays from the "infotainment" part. Pure vehicle operation stuff is always straight ahead for the driver, while navigation and music is always on a separate screen a little to the right.
  - aidenn0 6y ago
    That's interesting. My car (2019MY) must be a transition model because I have the 7-way controller in the center console, but the screen can still be touched.
    - wlesieutre 6y ago