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Maybe I'm showing my age, but this is the first release of a phone I have been eagerly awaiting.

by ipnon 6y ago

Shared404 6y ago
I'm young, and this is the first release of a phone I've been eagerly awaiting.
medium_burrito 6y ago
Count me in. I refuse to buy into the Apple ecosystem anymore after "courage" and the last few years of laptops, and I develop in linux anyway, so I'm extremely interested. Perhaps I just need to make the plunge?
- ipnon 6y ago
  My current daily driver is getting old but it still works. I'm going to buy the pinephone and try to use it as a replacement for my daily driver. If it's not convenient enough I will switch back and still have an interesting device to hack on.
redisman 6y ago
There was a Nokia Linux phone I remember being really excited for and went to demo it in a store. This was maybe 10 years ago.
- Funes- 6y ago
  That would be the Nokia N900, which used Maemo, a Debian-based distro. It runs PostmarketOS, as well [0]. [0]: https://invidio.us/watch?v=eux9IcB2lfg https://invidio.us/watch?v=eux9IcB2lfg.
  - pengaru 6y ago
    Or the Nokia N9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9
    - Funes- 6y ago
      His eagerness and excitement at the time could have been more closely related to Nokia N900's novelty (2009), since the N9 was released two years later (2011), and the concept wouldn't be as surprising. That's why I went with the N900 with my guess. In any case, considering both phones flew under almost everyone's radar, you might be right: it could be either one.
    - numpad0 6y ago
      N9 wasn’t much of a “Linux phone”, no more than Android is in terms of experience. The internet tablet line from Nokia 700 through to N900 on the other hand was by all means an “Xorg based” device, though only N900 could make calls(IIRC)
- pessimizer 6y ago
  It was wonderful. It's too bad we had to wait this long for a replacement.
Nursie 6y ago
Openmoko Freerunner ;) Had one many years ago. Great idea but not a livable-with phone. Put me off dev phones possibly forever. Didn't stop me getting an N900 at launch though. Great little piece of kit.
- seba_dos1 6y ago
  Ha, Openmoko Neo Freerunner was my first smartphone :) It managed to play the role of "livable-with phone" well enough for me though (but not without some effort of course). Then moved to Nokia N900 and only now I'm switching from it to Librem 5.
  - pengaru 6y ago
    > now I'm switching from it to Librem 5 Do you actually have the Librem 5 yet? Based on the mediocre battery life I'm hearing about on the mntre reform 2, and the need for such a heat sink there, I'm very curious what the Librem 5 situation is. They share a common SoC.
    - seba_dos1 6y ago
      Yes. I have backed it during the original crowdfunding and since a year ago I'm actually working on it at Purism. The battery life and thermals got much better in the last few months, and there's still plenty of stuff to improve on in the software stack there. With my early batch unit with smaller battery (2000mAh) I'm now able to reach 6h of idle time with modem and WiFi on without utilizing CPU suspend at all (so the phone stays reachable all that time and you can, say, ssh into it - the high figures from the PinePhone blog post rely on putting the phone into suspend). There's still plenty of work left, but I'm pretty happy with how usable Librem 5 comes to be right now. iMX.8M can be a power and thermal hog, that's right, but once you tame it in the kernel it becomes much more approachable ;)
  - Nursie 6y ago
    Wow you kept that N900 alive for a long time! Mine effectively died after about three years, the USB charging port came loose and the only way I had to charge it was removing the battery and charging externally. The freerunner was just a little too pre-market for me. I remember installing various different OS and frontend packages and trying lots of things out. It would have been fine but for one failing - whatever I installed, incoming calls would often just be silent. A phone that can't take calls is a step too far!

Maybe I'm showing my age, but this is the first release of a phone I have been eagerly awaiting.

by ipnon 6y ago

Maybe I'm showing my age, but this is the first release of a phone I have been eagerly awaiting.

Shared404 6y ago

I'm young, and this is the first release of a phone I've been eagerly awaiting.

medium_burrito 6y ago

Count me in. I refuse to buy into the Apple ecosystem anymore after "courage" and the last few years of laptops, and I develop in linux anyway, so I'm extremely interested. Perhaps I just need to make the plunge?

ipnon 6y ago
My current daily driver is getting old but it still works. I'm going to buy the pinephone and try to use it as a replacement for my daily driver. If it's not convenient enough I will switch back and still have an interesting device to hack on.

redisman 6y ago

There was a Nokia Linux phone I remember being really excited for and went to demo it in a store. This was maybe 10 years ago.

Funes- 6y ago
That would be the Nokia N900, which used Maemo, a Debian-based distro. It runs PostmarketOS, as well [0]. [0]: https://invidio.us/watch?v=eux9IcB2lfg https://invidio.us/watch?v=eux9IcB2lfg.
- pengaru 6y ago
  Or the Nokia N9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9
  - Funes- 6y ago
    His eagerness and excitement at the time could have been more closely related to Nokia N900's novelty (2009), since the N9 was released two years later (2011), and the concept wouldn't be as surprising. That's why I went with the N900 with my guess. In any case, considering both phones flew under almost everyone's radar, you might be right: it could be either one.
  - numpad0 6y ago
    N9 wasn’t much of a “Linux phone”, no more than Android is in terms of experience. The internet tablet line from Nokia 700 through to N900 on the other hand was by all means an “Xorg based” device, though only N900 could make calls(IIRC)
pessimizer 6y ago
It was wonderful. It's too bad we had to wait this long for a replacement.

Nursie 6y ago

Openmoko Freerunner ;) Had one many years ago. Great idea but not a livable-with phone. Put me off dev phones possibly forever. Didn't stop me getting an N900 at launch though. Great little piece of kit.

seba_dos1 6y ago
Ha, Openmoko Neo Freerunner was my first smartphone :) It managed to play the role of "livable-with phone" well enough for me though (but not without some effort of course). Then moved to Nokia N900 and only now I'm switching from it to Librem 5.
- pengaru 6y ago
  > now I'm switching from it to Librem 5 Do you actually have the Librem 5 yet? Based on the mediocre battery life I'm hearing about on the mntre reform 2, and the need for such a heat sink there, I'm very curious what the Librem 5 situation is. They share a common SoC.
  - seba_dos1 6y ago
    Yes. I have backed it during the original crowdfunding and since a year ago I'm actually working on it at Purism. The battery life and thermals got much better in the last few months, and there's still plenty of stuff to improve on in the software stack there. With my early batch unit with smaller battery (2000mAh) I'm now able to reach 6h of idle time with modem and WiFi on without utilizing CPU suspend at all (so the phone stays reachable all that time and you can, say, ssh into it - the high figures from the PinePhone blog post rely on putting the phone into suspend). There's still plenty of work left, but I'm pretty happy with how usable Librem 5 comes to be right now. iMX.8M can be a power and thermal hog, that's right, but once you tame it in the kernel it becomes much more approachable ;)
- Nursie 6y ago
  Wow you kept that N900 alive for a long time! Mine effectively died after about three years, the USB charging port came loose and the only way I had to charge it was removing the battery and charging externally. The freerunner was just a little too pre-market for me. I remember installing various different OS and frontend packages and trying lots of things out. It would have been fine but for one failing - whatever I installed, incoming calls would often just be silent. A phone that can't take calls is a step too far!