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1. Secure 2. Open 3. Customer friendly Pick two.

by alexslobodnik 6y ago

MattGaiser 6y ago
At least for me as a consumer, Apple’s behaviour is a feature I pay extra for, not a bug.
- benologist 6y ago
  Apple's behavior is superfluous to marketplaces and your security. That's why they can promise security on macOS even though Steam is allowing users to buy and install games outside of the Mac app store. They even allow random unsigned software to be downloaded and installed without thwarting their security.
- krzyk 6y ago
  You pay extra for not being able to install apps outside of Apple Store? Or more specifically, you pay extra so others couldn't do it on their phones (because you as I understand wouldn't, but you don't want others to be able to)?
  - bitcurious 6y ago
    I’m having a hard time phrasing this, but I also fall in the camp that views it as positive. The gist is this: there is no app maker that can say “screw that” to Apple’s privacy/security rules and bypass them. As such I will never be in a position to choose between my privacy and using the app. By Apple’s removing the possibility of that choice, I get both.
- lenkite 6y ago
  Thats fine. They can have a locked-down by default setting that you can pay extra for. The rest of us would like an open store.
JTbane 6y ago
There have been numerous examples of apps in the App Store that have malicious behavior. So, with Apple, pick none I guess?
- strictnein 6y ago
  Arguing that the safety of the Apple App store is equivalent to that of the Google Play Store, or any of the other Android markets (which are far worse), is pretty nonsensical.
- jolux 6y ago
  Numerous suggests you can still count them, which is an incalculable win against any other platform.
ainar-g 6y ago
Many times on the Internet I've read, that you can't really get security without openness. Both in software and in organisations.
stunt 6y ago
The market is big enough that you will see good quality competitors. Just think how the PC market would look like if it was closed to Microsoft.
floatboth 6y ago
Chromebooks are a great example of secure + customer friendly by default, with an option to go into very open mode. (activate developer mode by proving physical control — in the past it was a screw, now it's sitting through a few minutes of pressing the power button when asked; from dev mode you can go further and flash custom CPU and EC firmware)

1. Secure 2. Open 3. Customer friendly Pick two.

MattGaiser 6y ago

At least for me as a consumer, Apple’s behaviour is a feature I pay extra for, not a bug.

benologist 6y ago
Apple's behavior is superfluous to marketplaces and your security. That's why they can promise security on macOS even though Steam is allowing users to buy and install games outside of the Mac app store. They even allow random unsigned software to be downloaded and installed without thwarting their security.
krzyk 6y ago
You pay extra for not being able to install apps outside of Apple Store? Or more specifically, you pay extra so others couldn't do it on their phones (because you as I understand wouldn't, but you don't want others to be able to)?
- bitcurious 6y ago
  I’m having a hard time phrasing this, but I also fall in the camp that views it as positive. The gist is this: there is no app maker that can say “screw that” to Apple’s privacy/security rules and bypass them. As such I will never be in a position to choose between my privacy and using the app. By Apple’s removing the possibility of that choice, I get both.
lenkite 6y ago
Thats fine. They can have a locked-down by default setting that you can pay extra for. The rest of us would like an open store.

JTbane 6y ago

There have been numerous examples of apps in the App Store that have malicious behavior. So, with Apple, pick none I guess?

strictnein 6y ago
Arguing that the safety of the Apple App store is equivalent to that of the Google Play Store, or any of the other Android markets (which are far worse), is pretty nonsensical.
jolux 6y ago
Numerous suggests you can still count them, which is an incalculable win against any other platform.

ainar-g 6y ago

Many times on the Internet I've read, that you can't really get security without openness. Both in software and in organisations.

stunt 6y ago

The market is big enough that you will see good quality competitors. Just think how the PC market would look like if it was closed to Microsoft.

floatboth 6y ago

Chromebooks are a great example of secure + customer friendly by default, with an option to go into very open mode. (activate developer mode by proving physical control — in the past it was a screw, now it's sitting through a few minutes of pressing the power button when asked; from dev mode you can go further and flash custom CPU and EC firmware)