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From the other side of the pond, I'd like to add, it gets tiring. It's absolutely impossible to have a meaningful exchange with 95% pf the Americans on the Inte

From the other side of the pond, I'd like to add, it gets tiring. It's absolutely impossible to have a meaningful exchange with 95% pf the Americans on the Internet these days. Rare are the days I'm not called antifa/communist/libtard/fag and racist/bigot/trumpette/transphobic, often in the very same thread. For any American trying to figure out what I'm talking about, there's a couple of Facebook groups that routinely explore this and related effects: "Things only Americans think are debatable" and "oh great, now we have to explain it for the americans."

soco 6y ago
I can totally understand why (and by who) this comment got downvoted, but I happen to share its feeling. I won't say it cannot happen everywhere, but the interactions on USA politics have become (newly?) extremely polarizing.
- djsumdog 6y ago
  And two people can see the exact same event and read it two different ways. We're no longer in Plato's cave. We're literally watching the same movie, but seeing two different screens.
djsumdog 6y ago
I often go back to Brendon O'Neil's video about the right and duty to offend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtWrljX9HRA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtWrljX9HRA He talks about how it was once offensive to translate the Bible into English, or suggest God didn't exist, or suggest there was nothing wrong with homosexuality. People who suggested such things were deplatformed, and sometimes arrested or killed, but those who considered themselves enlightened and on the side of the righteous, the virtuous, the good.
- pjc50 6y ago
  O'Neill is literally a professional troll, to the extent that whenever there's a tragedy people make sport on twitter of predicting exactly what his contrarian take will be.
  - djsumdog 6y ago
    I don't know much about him as a person, but I do think he makes a good argument in this video, and argument I agree with in many ways. ML King beat women and Gandhi slept naked with his nieces to see if he could resist lust. They also led millions of people to freedom. You're attacking the person here, and not his argument. That's called ad hominem.
    - pjc50 6y ago
      Yes, but O'Neill is still a professional troll and is definitely not leading anyone to freedom.

soco 6y ago

I can totally understand why (and by who) this comment got downvoted, but I happen to share its feeling. I won't say it cannot happen everywhere, but the interactions on USA politics have become (newly?) extremely polarizing.

djsumdog 6y ago
And two people can see the exact same event and read it two different ways. We're no longer in Plato's cave. We're literally watching the same movie, but seeing two different screens.

djsumdog 6y ago

I often go back to Brendon O'Neil's video about the right and duty to offend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtWrljX9HRA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtWrljX9HRA He talks about how it was once offensive to translate the Bible into English, or suggest God didn't exist, or suggest there was nothing wrong with homosexuality. People who suggested such things were deplatformed, and sometimes arrested or killed, but those who considered themselves enlightened and on the side of the righteous, the virtuous, the good.

pjc50 6y ago
O'Neill is literally a professional troll, to the extent that whenever there's a tragedy people make sport on twitter of predicting exactly what his contrarian take will be.
- djsumdog 6y ago
  I don't know much about him as a person, but I do think he makes a good argument in this video, and argument I agree with in many ways. ML King beat women and Gandhi slept naked with his nieces to see if he could resist lust. They also led millions of people to freedom. You're attacking the person here, and not his argument. That's called ad hominem.
  - pjc50 6y ago
    Yes, but O'Neill is still a professional troll and is definitely not leading anyone to freedom.