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Do we even have a single American orthodoxy? I think orthodox privilege, like everything now, is politicized and partisan. You're either a Democrat or Republica
by WhompingWindows 6y ago
Do we even have a single American orthodoxy? I think orthodox privilege, like everything now, is politicized and partisan. You're either a Democrat or Republican, your whole constellation of viewpoints are very predictable given that one label.
On the Far Left, we have cancel culture and accusing others of racism... Those on the Far Left will not be castigated by their own orthodox community, because the far left is collectively agreeing to see racism in more places than it is likely to exist. Those within the moderate left are then punished by not conforming to the extreme orthodoxy for saying not all implicitly racist actions are done by racists.
Similarly, those on the right will be castigated by their own orthodox community of religious or gun/freedom figures who place devotion to those causes most highly. Any GOP figure is taking a great risk criticizing Trump now, because there is a great amount of orthodoxy behind his policies and the packing the courts with judges...in order to ensure the country is more conservative for longer, at any cost (even Trump).
Here on HN, we have our own orthodoxy, too. Those who work with Rust find safe haven for their views, and the downvote brigade on HN will descend if you even mention the word Trump.
- PaulKeeble 6y agoIf you work with Java now you will probably not do so well on HN, especially if its for a new product. Yet we ought to know mature reliable platforms are a better place to be than the latest hotness that is still changing and evolving and missing major libraries and features. After all its about the product not the underlying technology. You don't see Java talked about much on HN anymore yet its everywhere running the modern web.
- core-questions 6y ago> You're either a Democrat or Republican, your whole constellation of viewpoints are very predictable given that one label. If you don't see that those are actually two sides of the same orthodoxy, and that the truly unorthodox opinions are outside of either of those two, I don't know what to tell you beyond "you should check your orthodox privilege". ;-) When it comes to realpolitik, the Democrats and Republicans are basically only different in terms of the speed at which they implement neoliberal policies and fight neocon wars. The general direction of "progress" is the same.
- jkingsbery 6y agoOne of the most important thinkers today on the right is George Will, who is anti-Trump and an atheist. If you look at the National Review, there are lots of writers on the right who are either full anti-Trump or at least don't like him. So I think even within "the right," it's hard to pin down what the orthodox position is. But yes - on HN, supporting Trump is a big no-no, no matter what the reason (even if roughly half the country voted for him).