Oh no question, I know java very well, C well and C++ not at all, so maybe I am basing what I think of C++ as C, but I haven't really been able to do much inter

Oh no question, I know java very well, C well and C++ not at all, so maybe I am basing what I think of C++ as C, but I haven't really been able to do much interesting in C without extensive use of pointers (with the exception of my thesis project, although in that case it was interspersed with chunks of #asm - so it wasn't a good candidate either ;). Wouldn't it look rather like java though?