Not to ape your message but this, exactly. Element is much better than riot. Now if only I could find it in fdroid or GP. Joke: I think I'm starting to see the

Not to ape your message but this, exactly. Element is much better than riot. Now if only I could find it in fdroid or GP. Joke: I think I'm starting to see the hacker news version of the gell-mann amnesia effect, when you read something you have no opinion of, the hacker news people sound so smart, but when you read something, form your own opinion first, and then arrive at the HN comments to see everyone melting down, you wonder "where did all the smart people go?" 5 minutes later, you are back to being part of the concern mob. :)