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> I wouldn't want to put children in this world. I don't think the future world is a nice place to grow up in, even the current world isn't. I have posted the

by lqet 6y ago

> I wouldn't want to put children in this world. I don't think the future world is a nice place to grow up in, even the current world isn't. I have posted the following a few years ago: > My ancestors thought it was okay to have kids during times in which many scholars where certain the apocalypse was due in the next 25 years, during periods in which the plague killed more than half of the population, during the 30 years war and in a time when there was a realistic chance of nuclear annihilation in the next 10 years. I am glad they did. Today, as a father, I would add: as a potential parent, you are in no position to decide that your future children, grandchildren or great^x-grandchildren won't be glad to be alive. You don't know them, and most importantly you do not know and you cannot know about their world. In my opinion, this argument is nothing more but a convenient excuse to avoid the stress of bringing up kids. It is a valid reason to not want any kids because of the stress, but please don't rationalize yourself into peace of conscience by assuming that you can look into the future.

zeepzeep 6y ago
> assuming that you can look into the future. That's why I said "even the current world isn't".
- lqet 6y ago
  But you don't bring kids into this world. You bring them into the world of the future, even if this future is only 9 months away.
- ddorian43 6y ago
  Do you want to live in this world ?
donjohn 6y ago
> My ancestors thought it was okay to have kids during [bad times]. The desire to make Descendants in hard times is a natural reaction. In more peaceful times you have more time to think about it logicality.
bing_dai 6y ago
"> My ancestors thought it was okay to have kids during times in which many scholars where certain the apocalypse was due in the next 25 years, during periods in which the plague killed more than half of the population, during the 30 years war and in a time when there was a realistic chance of nuclear annihilation in the next 10 years. I am glad they did." In my opinion, your ancestors had children largely because they had intercourse without accessing to birth control, not because they made a conscious decision to have children despite the circumstances.
depr 6y ago
You are rationalizing in the same way in the other direction

by lqet 6y ago

zeepzeep 6y ago

> assuming that you can look into the future. That's why I said "even the current world isn't".

lqet 6y ago
But you don't bring kids into this world. You bring them into the world of the future, even if this future is only 9 months away.
ddorian43 6y ago
Do you want to live in this world ?

donjohn 6y ago

> My ancestors thought it was okay to have kids during [bad times]. The desire to make Descendants in hard times is a natural reaction. In more peaceful times you have more time to think about it logicality.

bing_dai 6y ago

"> My ancestors thought it was okay to have kids during times in which many scholars where certain the apocalypse was due in the next 25 years, during periods in which the plague killed more than half of the population, during the 30 years war and in a time when there was a realistic chance of nuclear annihilation in the next 10 years. I am glad they did." In my opinion, your ancestors had children largely because they had intercourse without accessing to birth control, not because they made a conscious decision to have children despite the circumstances.

depr 6y ago

You are rationalizing in the same way in the other direction