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Show of hands, who looks around today at the biggest challenges and problems we face, the ones that affect the greatest numbers of people the most perniciously,

Show of hands, who looks around today at the biggest challenges and problems we face, the ones that affect the greatest numbers of people the most perniciously, and that need swift & decisive solutions at almost any cost, and concludes that they're the ones having to do with foreign students being in the country taking online classes?

TheOtherHobbes 6y ago
Narcissistic populist racists. "It's not me, it's you."
- rdiddly 6y ago
  It's too bad populist has become a dirty word, because in theory it sounds great - i.e. democracy.
  - frequentnapper 6y ago
    demagoguery is just beyond the fine line...
    - jessaustin 6y ago
      When right-thinking people despise populism, who will be left as populists? I'm more worried about a Congress that unanimously passes trillions in handouts to rich people during a health emergency (and the feckless orange moron who didn't veto such public theft) than I am about "demagogues".
  - shrimpx 6y ago
    To extreme anti-populists, democracy is synonymous with mob rule.
threeseed 6y ago
a) The government can do more than one thing at a time. b) Given that so many startups were founded by immigrants who studied here I would consider it a pretty important issue to address.
- rdiddly 6y ago
  a) I think it probably can't do any things. b) They addressed it by trying to make them go home, get it now?
- qtplatypus 6y ago
  Yes the government can do more then one thing. However the US government has finite resources so why should it expend resources on kicking students out but not on more useful things.
nine_zeros 6y ago
> Show of hands, who looks around today at the biggest challenges and problems we face, the ones that affect the greatest numbers of people the most perniciously, and that need swift & decisive solutions at almost any cost, and concludes that they're the ones having to do with foreign students being in the country taking online classes? I'll bite despite your total lack of empathy. The rule change was brought in by ICE, an administrative arm of DHS, on its own accord with a desire to use humans as bargaining chip to help Trump's inhuman agenda. Not by congress, not by Trump. Since the problem was created by ICE in the first place, the onus is on them to fix it. Now if you would've said the same thing last week when ICE actually brought this rule change abruptly, I would've agreed with you. Why bring unnecessary nonsense rules in the middle of a pandemic?
- empath75 6y ago
  I think you read him backwards. He was saying that threatening to kick them out was stupid.

TheOtherHobbes 6y ago

Narcissistic populist racists. "It's not me, it's you."

rdiddly 6y ago
It's too bad populist has become a dirty word, because in theory it sounds great - i.e. democracy.
- frequentnapper 6y ago
  demagoguery is just beyond the fine line...
  - jessaustin 6y ago
    When right-thinking people despise populism, who will be left as populists? I'm more worried about a Congress that unanimously passes trillions in handouts to rich people during a health emergency (and the feckless orange moron who didn't veto such public theft) than I am about "demagogues".
- shrimpx 6y ago
  To extreme anti-populists, democracy is synonymous with mob rule.

threeseed 6y ago

a) The government can do more than one thing at a time. b) Given that so many startups were founded by immigrants who studied here I would consider it a pretty important issue to address.

rdiddly 6y ago
a) I think it probably can't do any things. b) They addressed it by trying to make them go home, get it now?
qtplatypus 6y ago
Yes the government can do more then one thing. However the US government has finite resources so why should it expend resources on kicking students out but not on more useful things.

nine_zeros 6y ago

> Show of hands, who looks around today at the biggest challenges and problems we face, the ones that affect the greatest numbers of people the most perniciously, and that need swift & decisive solutions at almost any cost, and concludes that they're the ones having to do with foreign students being in the country taking online classes? I'll bite despite your total lack of empathy. The rule change was brought in by ICE, an administrative arm of DHS, on its own accord with a desire to use humans as bargaining chip to help Trump's inhuman agenda. Not by congress, not by Trump. Since the problem was created by ICE in the first place, the onus is on them to fix it. Now if you would've said the same thing last week when ICE actually brought this rule change abruptly, I would've agreed with you. Why bring unnecessary nonsense rules in the middle of a pandemic?

empath75 6y ago
I think you read him backwards. He was saying that threatening to kick them out was stupid.