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I don't need to argue that standard of living has nothing to do with energy consumption, it is self evident. Leave your air conditioning or heating on for 24 ho
by eliasmacpherson 16y ago
I don't need to argue that standard of living has nothing to do with energy consumption, it is self evident. Leave your air conditioning or heating on for 24 hours for no reason, or keep your engine running while in a tail back. Wonder at how your standard of living has not improved one iota. I propose improving standards of living by people being more efficient. QED this is not spinning a make believe story. Your figures for energy consumption also back my point up, unless european standards of living are lower than the US because of power consumption. It is the reckless waste I am lobbying against. We are not just getting by.
I never stated that there were painless or negative side effect free power sources, you are the one who stated it was the most painless way forward. The additional power sources you are advocating are nuclear. I said nothing about eating animals. The whole universe isn't trying to do anything. When the power sources you speak of are consumed by your ideal life form, is it going to consume itself? Have you ever heard that energy is neither created nor destroyed, it just changes form? Contributing to as animals do, against directly causing like you advocate your ideal form doing, are different notions.
- JanezStupar 16y agoStandard of living != luxury As far as my hypothetical uber life form goes - its an thought experiment. It was never meant to go and devour all there is. I'm well aware of conservation of energy and I wasn't talking about it. I was talking about equalization of potentials. Thats what entropy means. The tendency that our universe has to equalize energy potentials. Thats what wind is. And thats why stars shine, the ice melts etc... Because if an more stable (read equal) energy state is available - the universe will find a way to achieve it. Just as all elements heavier the iron try to (and will eventually) fission into lighter particles and just as elements lighter than iron try to (and again will eventually) fuse together, until eventually whole universe will consist of nothing but iron atoms. That would be so called thermic death of the universe, which is valid only in some end of universe scenarios, which depend upon shape of spacetime.
- eliasmacpherson 16y agoNeither standard of living or luxury have anything to do with power consumption.