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> I've had my gaming machine on a separate box for awhile now. I do the same, I bought my box from Sony, it's called Playstation 4. Never had to worry about dr

> I've had my gaming machine on a separate box for awhile now. I do the same, I bought my box from Sony, it's called Playstation 4. Never had to worry about driver updates, incompatible games, sanboxing, anything. 5/5 would recommend.

yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
Okay, but I like mods.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  I don't trust random third party code that doesn't even at least have a company behind them tbh.
  - stallmanite 6y ago
    Run it on a sacrificial designated machine or virtual machine?
amatecha 6y ago
Yeah I also love playing games at half the graphical fidelity, resolution, and framerate! :P I have all current-gen consoles, but none of them compare to a high-specced PC on a 144hz monitor.
- edoceo 6y ago
  Is PCMR leaking?
- jorvi 6y ago
  At the distances people sit from their TV, taken with the average TV sizes, going higher than 1080p is not needed. You'd need to sit closer than 2m (!) to a 55" TV to be able to observe the fidelity increase from 4K.[0] The same goes for very fine particle effects or extremely high resolution textures. You just won't notice it. That is not to say those things don't have a place, they are amazing and definitely look amazing at the close distances one sits from a PC monitor. Its just not an apples-to-apples comparison. I also feel that past 60Hz+FPS, the higher numbers bring very diminishing returns, especially for controllers. Although I'd much rather see modern consoles go 1080p120fps than 4k60fps. [0] https://www.hellotech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/screen-size-value-proposition.jpg https://www.hellotech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/sc...
  - amatecha 6y ago
    Unfortunately your assertions don't correlate with my experience at all. I recently swapped my 1080p 60hz 23" monitor for a larger 1440p 144hz 27" one and it makes a substantial difference, not only for gaming but also for computing in general. And yes the high-resolution textures make a difference frequently, for example when your game camera is near any game geometry or model and you see nice sharp details rather than smoothed scaling artifacts. Even in terms of the entire game experience, for instance at 5:29 in this video, this isn't even 4k vs 1080p, these are both 1080p at different graphical quality levels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Nh9am3RM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Nh9am3RM The difference in detail is immediately clear.
  - GordonS 6y ago
    > You'd need to sit closer than 2m (!) to a 55" TV to be able to observe the fidelity increase from 4K You do realise that not everyone lives in a mansion? 2m is a fairly common distance from eyeballs to the TV here in the UK.
    - jorvi 6y ago
      When I was still in university even in the tiniest of student rooms I pretty much always sat at least at 2m distance from my/a TV. No mansions involved. Take out your measuring tape and extend it 2m from the middle of your couch, or conversely extend 2m from your TV. It is not as big a viewing distance as you think.
- Softcadbury 6y ago
  I only play on PS4 and I honestly don't have any problems with technical aspects. What you don't know can't hurt you I guess.
  - amatecha 6y ago
    Yeah, I can definitely relate. I had a PS4 before and was super happy with it, especially since it was such a huge step up from the computer I had at the time. Then I got a nice PC upgrade... It's not just the resolution, but the actual graphics/rendering capabilities are substantially better: shadows that accurately match the shape of what they're cast from, high detail even on distant objects, faster response to control input, etc. It makes such a difference in how immersive the games feel, which is a big deal for me. Going from Witcher 3 on PS4 to all-maxed-out settings at double the framerate on my PC was like night and day. IMO, you just can't go back. (comparison here for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Nh9am3RM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Nh9am3RM ) I spend a huge percentage of my time in games just exploring and looking at stuff, appreciating the immersive nature of the worlds people have crafted. This is even more rewarding now with a nice gaming PC setup :)
rmellow 6y ago
I do the same! I don't care about the minute (imho) differences in graphics between a multiple thousand dollar maxed out PC for the newest games, vs a $300ish PS4 that is pretty much guaranteed to work fine FPS wise and look great. No driver issues though, but the frequent and sizeable updates are so bad. After a 2 year hiatus, my Destiny 2 installation (60ish GB) needed to download updates... amounting to 60ish GB. On my current connection, that was a huge chunk of the weekend.
rmellow 6y ago
There is an attempt at intrusion from Sony though: To use the YouTube app, it asks you to associate a Sony app to your YouTube account, that can track your video history (in or out of the PS4) and reserves the right to share videos to your YouTube channel, publicly.

yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago

Okay, but I like mods.

aaomidi 6y ago
I don't trust random third party code that doesn't even at least have a company behind them tbh.
- stallmanite 6y ago
  Run it on a sacrificial designated machine or virtual machine?

amatecha 6y ago

Yeah I also love playing games at half the graphical fidelity, resolution, and framerate! :P I have all current-gen consoles, but none of them compare to a high-specced PC on a 144hz monitor.

edoceo 6y ago
Is PCMR leaking?
jorvi 6y ago
At the distances people sit from their TV, taken with the average TV sizes, going higher than 1080p is not needed. You'd need to sit closer than 2m (!) to a 55" TV to be able to observe the fidelity increase from 4K.[0] The same goes for very fine particle effects or extremely high resolution textures. You just won't notice it. That is not to say those things don't have a place, they are amazing and definitely look amazing at the close distances one sits from a PC monitor. Its just not an apples-to-apples comparison. I also feel that past 60Hz+FPS, the higher numbers bring very diminishing returns, especially for controllers. Although I'd much rather see modern consoles go 1080p120fps than 4k60fps. [0] https://www.hellotech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/screen-size-value-proposition.jpg https://www.hellotech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/sc...
- amatecha 6y ago
  Unfortunately your assertions don't correlate with my experience at all. I recently swapped my 1080p 60hz 23" monitor for a larger 1440p 144hz 27" one and it makes a substantial difference, not only for gaming but also for computing in general. And yes the high-resolution textures make a difference frequently, for example when your game camera is near any game geometry or model and you see nice sharp details rather than smoothed scaling artifacts. Even in terms of the entire game experience, for instance at 5:29 in this video, this isn't even 4k vs 1080p, these are both 1080p at different graphical quality levels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Nh9am3RM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Nh9am3RM The difference in detail is immediately clear.
- GordonS 6y ago
  > You'd need to sit closer than 2m (!) to a 55" TV to be able to observe the fidelity increase from 4K You do realise that not everyone lives in a mansion? 2m is a fairly common distance from eyeballs to the TV here in the UK.
  - jorvi 6y ago
    When I was still in university even in the tiniest of student rooms I pretty much always sat at least at 2m distance from my/a TV. No mansions involved. Take out your measuring tape and extend it 2m from the middle of your couch, or conversely extend 2m from your TV. It is not as big a viewing distance as you think.
Softcadbury 6y ago
I only play on PS4 and I honestly don't have any problems with technical aspects. What you don't know can't hurt you I guess.
- amatecha 6y ago
  Yeah, I can definitely relate. I had a PS4 before and was super happy with it, especially since it was such a huge step up from the computer I had at the time. Then I got a nice PC upgrade... It's not just the resolution, but the actual graphics/rendering capabilities are substantially better: shadows that accurately match the shape of what they're cast from, high detail even on distant objects, faster response to control input, etc. It makes such a difference in how immersive the games feel, which is a big deal for me. Going from Witcher 3 on PS4 to all-maxed-out settings at double the framerate on my PC was like night and day. IMO, you just can't go back. (comparison here for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Nh9am3RM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Nh9am3RM ) I spend a huge percentage of my time in games just exploring and looking at stuff, appreciating the immersive nature of the worlds people have crafted. This is even more rewarding now with a nice gaming PC setup :)

rmellow 6y ago

I do the same! I don't care about the minute (imho) differences in graphics between a multiple thousand dollar maxed out PC for the newest games, vs a $300ish PS4 that is pretty much guaranteed to work fine FPS wise and look great. No driver issues though, but the frequent and sizeable updates are so bad. After a 2 year hiatus, my Destiny 2 installation (60ish GB) needed to download updates... amounting to 60ish GB. On my current connection, that was a huge chunk of the weekend.

rmellow 6y ago

There is an attempt at intrusion from Sony though: To use the YouTube app, it asks you to associate a Sony app to your YouTube account, that can track your video history (in or out of the PS4) and reserves the right to share videos to your YouTube channel, publicly.