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> They have 1,600 journalists last year that were sent to 150 countries [1]. What other organization is doing anything like that effort to gather facts around
by JeremyNT 6y ago
> They have 1,600 journalists last year that were sent to 150 countries [1]. What other organization is doing anything like that effort to gather facts around the world?
Reuters [0], for one, which boasts "2500 journalists and 600 photojournalists."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuters
A key thing to understand about the editorial / news hybrids like the NYT, CNN, or Fox News is that they're selling multiple products under the same umbrella: the "reporting" product is side-by-side with the "editorial" product. The editorial content is almost always useless garbage, and it exists solely to generate clicks/views/etc. A lot of the whining about cancel culture is from people who tend to write editorial content, and I don't shed any tears for them, but the failure mode of these orgs is that the editorial section has developed such a strong brand (and their audiences are increasingly polarized), such that their now Twitter-policed editorial viewpoint is increasingly expected to be enforced in the "real" news products, too.
If you want less biased reporting, there are outlets that provide it, but they tend to not publish as much inflammatory clickbait and thus tend to go under the radar of many information consumers.
- AxiomCloNe 6y agowhat are some of these outlets you know of? I've been trying to ironclad my news sources after getting into Chomsky recently but have only found Democracy Now! and Novara media, as well as a couple other small speciality podcasts that seem potentially good. Would appreciate pointers.
- bJGVygG7MQVF8c 6y agoIf you like Chomsky check out What's Left (podcast) if you haven't yet. It's very good and will only deepen your skepticism of the corporate press.
- sukilot 6y agoReuters and frankly the websites of the local TV stations (Sinclair notwithstanding). Al Jazeera, mostly. ProPublica is OK but falling from grace as it leans harder into manipulating heartstrings.
- st1ck 6y agoYou can also try The Intercept.
- randomsearch 6y agoIt’s been posted here a thousand times, but the Economist and the FT are good starting points.
- thu2111 6y agoLess biased on what topics? Both are notoriously, extremely biased on all kinds of topics, for example Brexit/the EU. The Financial Times actually flies the EU flag above its offices: rather hard to get a clearer statement of bias than that.
- randomsearch 6y ago> Both are notoriously, extremely biased on all kinds of topics That's a strong claim without evidence.
- thu2111 6y agoWell, I provided some evidence for the FT. Do you think a newspaper that literally flies the flag of a foreign government over its offices is going to be critical of that government? I'm not sure how you'd prove this rigorously though. Just look at other comments in this thread. One commenter observes he never saw a pro-Brexit op-ed in the FT, ever. They're always anti.
- randomsearch 6y agoI doubt editorial policy is dictated by proximity to flags, so I'll leave that aside. The FT and Economist are both focused on economic issues. I don't think you can expect them to campaign for a cause that is (by the admission of its supporters) going to damage the economy. They do consider the positive economic outcomes and possibilities of Brexit within their reporting, but there just aren't many compared to the negative ones. I don't think that's biased, it's fact, and it's fact that is agreed upon by both sides of the debate.
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- lenkite 6y agoI find the Wall Street Journal and Financial Times mostly OK, if you can live with the fact that they will always support the corporate sector.