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It's ironic you post this after Bethesda installed a root-kit anti-cheat for this very game (yes, it has since been updated, but not automatically removed if it
by falcolas 6y ago
It's ironic you post this after Bethesda installed a root-kit anti-cheat for this very game (yes, it has since been updated, but not automatically removed if it was already there).
So, yeah, they may have very well collected that data from your hard drive.
EDIT: Brain flatulance, s/DRM/anti-cheat/g
- dx87 6y agoIt wasn't even DRM, it was anti-cheat that only ran when you launched the game, and it's not like it was a secret that it was added in an update. Your comment is pure FUD.
- ubercow13 6y agoAnti-cheat is even worse. There is a peverse incentive for the publisher to spy on your computer that isn't there so much with DRM. You can imagine them thinking it would be a good idea to upload your 'suspicious' files that might be cheat-related to their servers for analysis.
- falcolas 6y agoIt was not a secret, but it certainly caused an uproar, which prompted Bethesda to scale it back dramatically. Being in ring-0, it has access to all contents on disk, and all contents in memory. What is actually sent up to Bethesda's servers could be, quite literally, anything on your system. It's why Sony's rootkit DRM (got it right this time) was so poorly received a decade and a half ago - because you, as the computer's owner, can't control what it does or isolate its access.
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoDRM is definitely a big offender, the other one off hand that is amazing is anti-cheat systems. Both types of technology for PC games basically are predicated on the concept of "if we monitor everything it's remotely possible to monitor about your PC, we can detect if you do something bad with it". It's probable that Steam would not be remotely as successful if it interfered with DRM and anti-cheat strategies on privacy or security grounds.