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I never understand the mindset of these hyperpartisan people . What are they trying to achieve? They seem to forget that politics is about making things bet

I never understand the mindset of these hyperpartisan people . What are they trying to achieve? They seem to forget that politics is about making things better and not just about “winning”. It would be much better if they got into sports and be hyperpartisan there where the result doesn’t really matter.

e40 6y ago
I think anger drives them. I would definitely like to know. I suspect that many are sociopaths. Like the couple that ran a news site from their home in TX that made many millions from writing untrue and sensational headlines and then purchasing ads on Facebook. FB finally stopped allowing them to purchase ads, but not before a massive number of people consumed their hate-filled shit.
mola 6y ago
I believe most people will agree with you. But the people funding these are not most people. They are a tiny minority of human beings. They precieve left leaning government to be an existential threat. Usually because of individualistic money/power struggles, but because it's such a small amount of people, it could be for very varied and weird psychological reasons. Because of the limits of the democratic system, these people.need to gather large support from the population. The best way is making larger parts of the populous to precieve left leaning policies not as dumb or not useful, but as a direct existential threat to their core values or even life. This why Putin weaponized the social media with extreme fake BLM movement posts, leading to the 2016 elections. Now, when someone is threatening your existence, you instinctively go in to winning at whatever cost mentality. Just to be clear. I don't think right leaning ideology is inherently corrupt. Far from it. But for some reason it seems that a bigger percentage of the right leaning representatives are more willing to play ball with with big money interest. Which makes them more useful, this more worth the "investment". Of course there are plenty of corrupt left leaning politicians. But they seem less useful or maybe the left leaning dissidents are making it harder to sell out completely. As aside, identity politics are just perfect for someone who wants to corrupt the representatives of both sides. It distracts media attention from actual legislation which affects everybody. To more general non concrete arguments where populous on both sides feel existentially threatened. Further more,even if right leaning politician will prove to be troublesome. Left leaning politician corruption could be masked with being nice and progressive, thus appeasing those with "troubling" social ideological leanings. Without actually making much damage to the money people.
ldoughty 6y ago
The political parties are trying this into a "war". They want divisiveness. They want people to view this as a win-or-lose situation. It brings in lots of money, and helps push for their party's voters to mobilize and go vote so they have control to push their agendas.. it also makes it easier to find "party line" politicians that won't deviate from the pack on specific key issues they care about.
Nasrudith 6y ago
To be frank sadly many people are just plain ego driven as it is part of their identity and want to be "right" over any actual truthfulness or results. It is unfortunately a full spectrum tendency and not limited bipartisan and not limited to extremes although they may manifest differently and there are cases beyond their "stereotype". The further left are infamous for being fractious over increasingly petty and pedantic differences and purity spirals to try to self differentiate (famously satirized in the Life of Brian with the Judean People's Front and variants), the far right or authoritarians in general staying loyal to some "strong" cause even when it is obviously incredibly bad for them to the point where "slugs for salt" is an old joke, and moderates accept any old bullshit if it fits in their norms and justifies themselves in some way even if it is utterly abhorrent and proven morally wrong and foolish later like the community's shameful mistreatment of Ryan White during AIDS panics along with breathlessly accepting any ole bullshit if it "doesn't rock thr boat". Nowhere and nobody is immune to it because we are all human.

e40 6y ago

I think anger drives them. I would definitely like to know. I suspect that many are sociopaths. Like the couple that ran a news site from their home in TX that made many millions from writing untrue and sensational headlines and then purchasing ads on Facebook. FB finally stopped allowing them to purchase ads, but not before a massive number of people consumed their hate-filled shit.

mola 6y ago

I believe most people will agree with you. But the people funding these are not most people. They are a tiny minority of human beings. They precieve left leaning government to be an existential threat. Usually because of individualistic money/power struggles, but because it's such a small amount of people, it could be for very varied and weird psychological reasons. Because of the limits of the democratic system, these people.need to gather large support from the population. The best way is making larger parts of the populous to precieve left leaning policies not as dumb or not useful, but as a direct existential threat to their core values or even life. This why Putin weaponized the social media with extreme fake BLM movement posts, leading to the 2016 elections. Now, when someone is threatening your existence, you instinctively go in to winning at whatever cost mentality. Just to be clear. I don't think right leaning ideology is inherently corrupt. Far from it. But for some reason it seems that a bigger percentage of the right leaning representatives are more willing to play ball with with big money interest. Which makes them more useful, this more worth the "investment". Of course there are plenty of corrupt left leaning politicians. But they seem less useful or maybe the left leaning dissidents are making it harder to sell out completely. As aside, identity politics are just perfect for someone who wants to corrupt the representatives of both sides. It distracts media attention from actual legislation which affects everybody. To more general non concrete arguments where populous on both sides feel existentially threatened. Further more,even if right leaning politician will prove to be troublesome. Left leaning politician corruption could be masked with being nice and progressive, thus appeasing those with "troubling" social ideological leanings. Without actually making much damage to the money people.

ldoughty 6y ago

The political parties are trying this into a "war". They want divisiveness. They want people to view this as a win-or-lose situation. It brings in lots of money, and helps push for their party's voters to mobilize and go vote so they have control to push their agendas.. it also makes it easier to find "party line" politicians that won't deviate from the pack on specific key issues they care about.

Nasrudith 6y ago

To be frank sadly many people are just plain ego driven as it is part of their identity and want to be "right" over any actual truthfulness or results. It is unfortunately a full spectrum tendency and not limited bipartisan and not limited to extremes although they may manifest differently and there are cases beyond their "stereotype". The further left are infamous for being fractious over increasingly petty and pedantic differences and purity spirals to try to self differentiate (famously satirized in the Life of Brian with the Judean People's Front and variants), the far right or authoritarians in general staying loyal to some "strong" cause even when it is obviously incredibly bad for them to the point where "slugs for salt" is an old joke, and moderates accept any old bullshit if it fits in their norms and justifies themselves in some way even if it is utterly abhorrent and proven morally wrong and foolish later like the community's shameful mistreatment of Ryan White during AIDS panics along with breathlessly accepting any ole bullshit if it "doesn't rock thr boat". Nowhere and nobody is immune to it because we are all human.