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Have you flown on autopilot? It maintains speed, height and direction. It doesn't land or take off. Originally it couldn't even turn.

by perbu 6y ago

catalogia 6y ago
Some can land in some conditions. However take off is still done by pilots in everything other than a few experimental aircraft.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > Some can land in some conditions. So... a bit like a Tesla parking itself in some conditions?
  - catalogia 6y ago
    Perhaps, but I've already responded to you addressing this, in this thread. The public's ignorance must be considered; being "technically correct" isn't good enough if the "technically correct" statement is being made by somebody who has every reason to believe it will be misunderstood.
    - bkor 6y ago
      To add: saying that your marketing is "technically correct" while focussing on the general audience is quite convenient (deceptive).
  - voqv 6y ago
    I hope you really don't think it's a good comparison. The level of effort and safety engineering that went into ILS Cat IIIb and Autoland is above and beyond what any automotive company is doing. Autoland is mandatory in certain conditions.
  - Piskvorrr 6y ago
    Requires total coordination and compliance from both stationary and moving parts of the system, and operator is supposed to take over immediately, continuing the manouevre, at the sign of any trouble? Yeah. That's almost completely unlike a Tesla parking.
FabHK 6y ago
Sure. And during those hours of straight and level flight you can read a book or talk to the cabin crew or have a meal. Shouldn't do that in the car (yet).
- OnlyForF1 6y ago
  That violates the sterile cockpit rule and is a HUGE no no. Pilots can only read a book or talk to cabin crew if the control of the aircraft is with the other human pilot in the cockpit. Someone has to be ready to take control of the aircraft at a moment's notice in the case of a sensor, software, or mechanical failure.
  - bkor 6y ago
    > That violates the sterile cockpit rule and is a HUGE no no. Pilots can only read a book or talk to cabin crew if the control of the aircraft is with the other human pilot in the cockpit. Sterile cockpit does not seem to apply at cruising altitude though, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_Cockpit_Rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_Cockpit_Rule: "The Sterile Cockpit Rule is a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulation stating that during critical phases of flight (normally below 10,000 feet (3,050 m)), only activities required for the safe operation of the aircraft may be carried out, and all non-essential activities in the cockpit are forbidden."
- Piskvorrr 6y ago
  Because what are you going to hit up there, cumulogranite? There's a whole industry devoted to "let's keep the planes out of each other's way; luckily the sky is huge".

Have you flown on autopilot? It maintains speed, height and direction. It doesn't land or take off. Originally it couldn't even turn.

by perbu 6y ago

Have you flown on autopilot? It maintains speed, height and direction. It doesn't land or take off. Originally it couldn't even turn.

catalogia 6y ago

Some can land in some conditions. However take off is still done by pilots in everything other than a few experimental aircraft.

chrisseaton 6y ago
> Some can land in some conditions. So... a bit like a Tesla parking itself in some conditions?
- catalogia 6y ago
  Perhaps, but I've already responded to you addressing this, in this thread. The public's ignorance must be considered; being "technically correct" isn't good enough if the "technically correct" statement is being made by somebody who has every reason to believe it will be misunderstood.
  - bkor 6y ago
    To add: saying that your marketing is "technically correct" while focussing on the general audience is quite convenient (deceptive).
- voqv 6y ago
  I hope you really don't think it's a good comparison. The level of effort and safety engineering that went into ILS Cat IIIb and Autoland is above and beyond what any automotive company is doing. Autoland is mandatory in certain conditions.
- Piskvorrr 6y ago
  Requires total coordination and compliance from both stationary and moving parts of the system, and operator is supposed to take over immediately, continuing the manouevre, at the sign of any trouble? Yeah. That's almost completely unlike a Tesla parking.

FabHK 6y ago

Sure. And during those hours of straight and level flight you can read a book or talk to the cabin crew or have a meal. Shouldn't do that in the car (yet).

OnlyForF1 6y ago
That violates the sterile cockpit rule and is a HUGE no no. Pilots can only read a book or talk to cabin crew if the control of the aircraft is with the other human pilot in the cockpit. Someone has to be ready to take control of the aircraft at a moment's notice in the case of a sensor, software, or mechanical failure.
- bkor 6y ago
  > That violates the sterile cockpit rule and is a HUGE no no. Pilots can only read a book or talk to cabin crew if the control of the aircraft is with the other human pilot in the cockpit. Sterile cockpit does not seem to apply at cruising altitude though, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_Cockpit_Rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_Cockpit_Rule: "The Sterile Cockpit Rule is a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulation stating that during critical phases of flight (normally below 10,000 feet (3,050 m)), only activities required for the safe operation of the aircraft may be carried out, and all non-essential activities in the cockpit are forbidden."
Piskvorrr 6y ago
Because what are you going to hit up there, cumulogranite? There's a whole industry devoted to "let's keep the planes out of each other's way; luckily the sky is huge".