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That's pretty bad, something for startups to keep in mind if they plan to use Github for their company I guess.

by marcinzm 6y ago

IncRnd 6y ago
At our shop we are happy using Github Enterprise. There may be something unstated in this page's story.
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  Is your happiness a happiness of never having a problem that needed a human to resolve or a happiness of having a problem and Github resolving it? One is an unknown and the other is an counterpoint to this.
  - IncRnd 6y ago
    > Is your happiness a happiness of never having a problem that needed a human to resolve or a happiness of having a problem and Github resolving it? It's due to paying github and getting highly technical support. The tooling is also superior for our purposes. I am not saying that everyone needs to pay github. There is a good chance, however, that there was a reason this person's account was suspended. If this was due to a mistake, a straightforward contact letter would have more results than starting an internet petition.
mobilio 6y ago
Most of startups knows that if they need to succeed it must be self-hosted somewhere. I'm not talking just for sources and repos. About servers too.
- marcinzm 6y ago
  In my experience, most small startups, especially successful ones, rely on SaaS for as much as possible. The goal is to do as little as possible themselves.
  - jabroni_salad 6y ago
    Sure, but to the point of not even having a local copy of your source code? That just seems irresponsible.
    - marcinzm 6y ago
      A local copy helps you migrate to a new provider but that's still a lot of effort and downtime. You lose ticketing, pull requests, CI/CD pipeline, artifact storage, etc.
      - mobilio 6y ago
        You always can make a local GitLab - installation take minutes and everything is in-place. Please explain where is "lot of effort and downtime"?
  - parliament32 6y ago
    SaaS is cutting corners, plain and simple. Yes, in a startup you need to cut corners, but it will bite you in the ass eventually.
    - marcinzm 6y ago
      Everything will bite you in the ass eventually. Nothing is ideal. Everything has risks and eventual failure modes. Good business is about managing those risks rather than eliminating them.

That's pretty bad, something for startups to keep in mind if they plan to use Github for their company I guess.

IncRnd 6y ago

At our shop we are happy using Github Enterprise. There may be something unstated in this page's story.

MattGaiser 6y ago
Is your happiness a happiness of never having a problem that needed a human to resolve or a happiness of having a problem and Github resolving it? One is an unknown and the other is an counterpoint to this.
- IncRnd 6y ago
  > Is your happiness a happiness of never having a problem that needed a human to resolve or a happiness of having a problem and Github resolving it? It's due to paying github and getting highly technical support. The tooling is also superior for our purposes. I am not saying that everyone needs to pay github. There is a good chance, however, that there was a reason this person's account was suspended. If this was due to a mistake, a straightforward contact letter would have more results than starting an internet petition.

mobilio 6y ago

Most of startups knows that if they need to succeed it must be self-hosted somewhere. I'm not talking just for sources and repos. About servers too.

marcinzm 6y ago
In my experience, most small startups, especially successful ones, rely on SaaS for as much as possible. The goal is to do as little as possible themselves.
- jabroni_salad 6y ago
  Sure, but to the point of not even having a local copy of your source code? That just seems irresponsible.
  - marcinzm 6y ago
    A local copy helps you migrate to a new provider but that's still a lot of effort and downtime. You lose ticketing, pull requests, CI/CD pipeline, artifact storage, etc.
    - mobilio 6y ago
      You always can make a local GitLab - installation take minutes and everything is in-place. Please explain where is "lot of effort and downtime"?
- parliament32 6y ago
  SaaS is cutting corners, plain and simple. Yes, in a startup you need to cut corners, but it will bite you in the ass eventually.
  - marcinzm 6y ago
    Everything will bite you in the ass eventually. Nothing is ideal. Everything has risks and eventual failure modes. Good business is about managing those risks rather than eliminating them.