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Yes, they get rid of content from "ugly, poor or disabled users" so you have an even "better" experience. So not only is it Chinese spyware, it is an awful comp

Yes, they get rid of content from "ugly, poor or disabled users" so you have an even "better" experience. So not only is it Chinese spyware, it is an awful company too. Source: https://theintercept.com/2020/03/16/tiktok-app-moderators-users-discrimination/ https://theintercept.com/2020/03/16/tiktok-app-moderators-us...

YarickR2 6y ago
Do you have instagram account ? If yes - are you subscribed to ugly, poor or disabled people ?
- kube-system 6y ago
  Ugly, poor, and disabled people are absolutely capable of producing interesting content.
  - YarickR2 6y ago
    That's not the answer to the question I was asking. I wanted to know how many are watching this content , not if this this content exists . If nobody is watching, then result is the same
    - kube-system 6y ago
      I definitely subscribe to some people who could be labelled that way, because I subscribe to interesting content. Most of my favorite YouTubers don't show their face at all, and a few show neither their face nor their voice. But, I am sure you can also find people who discriminate anyway, otherwise we wouldn't need to have conversations about discrimination. But, there is a very different ethical and practical divide between a company implementing systematic discrimination and discrimination by individual users. This divide is large enough that most western nations have decided to draw their legislative lines there.
- addison-lee 6y ago
  Yes, not all of my friends are attractive and rich.
  - YarickR2 6y ago
    Neither are mine . I'm not subscribed to IG account of poor ugly disabled anyone, though. Should I feel like self-CCP to me ? Feel guilty about myself ?
    - addison-lee 6y ago
      So you are completely ok with TikTok filtering out content from ugly, poor or disabled users? Because that is what it sounds like.
  - tanilama 6y ago
    But they are not ugly/disabled and poor. There is a word average just you know.
    - addison-lee 6y ago
      The article said ugly, disabled or poor, not ugly, disabled and poor. You'd think someone on HN would know the difference between the two.
mwcampbell 6y ago
As one of the replies to your comment suggests, I think this is a problem with photo-based and video-based social media in general. In an all-text environment like HN, each participant is nothing more than their words and the name they choose to post under. Consider that (unless you already looked at my profile), you have now read most of my comment without finding out that I'm legally blind. If I had to post this as a video, it would probably be more apparent.
- mercer 6y ago
  It feels depressingly long ago when "On the internet nobody knows you're a dog" was both funny and true :-/. Btw, I checked your profile and I was sad to find that your blog doesn't seem to exist anymore. I'd love to read more about accessibility and the particulars of being a blind developer. I can't imagine what that's like, but I have at times wondered how I would approach it. I imagine many of us web developers could benefit from more awareness when it comes to accessibility in general! That said, your Twitter appears to still be operational and relevant to the topic.

YarickR2 6y ago

Do you have instagram account ? If yes - are you subscribed to ugly, poor or disabled people ?

kube-system 6y ago
Ugly, poor, and disabled people are absolutely capable of producing interesting content.
- YarickR2 6y ago
  That's not the answer to the question I was asking. I wanted to know how many are watching this content , not if this this content exists . If nobody is watching, then result is the same
  - kube-system 6y ago
    I definitely subscribe to some people who could be labelled that way, because I subscribe to interesting content. Most of my favorite YouTubers don't show their face at all, and a few show neither their face nor their voice. But, I am sure you can also find people who discriminate anyway, otherwise we wouldn't need to have conversations about discrimination. But, there is a very different ethical and practical divide between a company implementing systematic discrimination and discrimination by individual users. This divide is large enough that most western nations have decided to draw their legislative lines there.
addison-lee 6y ago
Yes, not all of my friends are attractive and rich.
- YarickR2 6y ago
  Neither are mine . I'm not subscribed to IG account of poor ugly disabled anyone, though. Should I feel like self-CCP to me ? Feel guilty about myself ?
  - addison-lee 6y ago
    So you are completely ok with TikTok filtering out content from ugly, poor or disabled users? Because that is what it sounds like.
- tanilama 6y ago
  But they are not ugly/disabled and poor. There is a word average just you know.
  - addison-lee 6y ago
    The article said ugly, disabled or poor, not ugly, disabled and poor. You'd think someone on HN would know the difference between the two.

mwcampbell 6y ago

As one of the replies to your comment suggests, I think this is a problem with photo-based and video-based social media in general. In an all-text environment like HN, each participant is nothing more than their words and the name they choose to post under. Consider that (unless you already looked at my profile), you have now read most of my comment without finding out that I'm legally blind. If I had to post this as a video, it would probably be more apparent.

mercer 6y ago
It feels depressingly long ago when "On the internet nobody knows you're a dog" was both funny and true :-/. Btw, I checked your profile and I was sad to find that your blog doesn't seem to exist anymore. I'd love to read more about accessibility and the particulars of being a blind developer. I can't imagine what that's like, but I have at times wondered how I would approach it. I imagine many of us web developers could benefit from more awareness when it comes to accessibility in general! That said, your Twitter appears to still be operational and relevant to the topic.