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A bit if a tangent, but a company I worked with recently had an issue enrolling in the Enterprise dev program. It's a large company with thousands of employees

A bit if a tangent, but a company I worked with recently had an issue enrolling in the Enterprise dev program. It's a large company with thousands of employees, so definitely enterprise scale. They heard nothing for months after applying, and weren't able to find any way to chase the application. Eventually Apple got back to them to say the company didn't meet the Enterprise program requirements. The company asked which requirement they didn't meet, because it was plain that they did in fact meet all the requirements - Apple wouldn't say! They said their decision was final, and they wouldn't say why. Absolutely crazy.

londons_explore 6y ago
That's when you register a new company to act as an in-between...
- GordonS 6y ago
  Having to register a new company to try to enroll seems a tad excessive, and certainly shouldn't be necessary.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago
    Registering a new company only for that purpose makes no sense, but using an existing one could be useful, if you take into account a few issues (like the name - but this is more significant with B2C, it won't matter much for the Enterprise program.)
- bob1029 6y ago
  I know this is probably meant in jest, but in my experience dealing with Apple enterprise dev program for the last 3 years, its probably easier to just incorporate a new LLC and use that if you get stuck somewhere in the process. Probably cheaper too if you value your time.
emidln 6y ago
It took me around 6 months to find out that while we meet the enterprise criteria, our use case wasn't what they envisioned for the enterprise program. As such, they suggested we reapply for a normal dev account and overlook their public instructions that told us to go to their enterprise program.
- GordonS 6y ago
  In this case, the company wanted to develop their own apps and distribute them internally through tools like App Center and InTune, rather than using the public app store. AFAIK, to do that you need an in-house distribution certificate, and AFAIK you can only get that through the Apple Enterprise Developer program.
closeparen 6y ago
I used to think the Microsoft/Cisco/HP system of certified partner networks was obtuse. Now I see the wisdom. Managing relationships at scale is not the core competency for these companies; it's better that they delegate it to organizations that can. And it's a competitive marketplace. If you don't like your Microsoft partner, there are thousands more to choose from. Incidentally, when you work at one of these partners, you get access to private tech support phone numbers that are the real-life version of XKCD's Shibboleth [0]. [0] https://xkcd.com/806/ https://xkcd.com/806/

londons_explore 6y ago

That's when you register a new company to act as an in-between...

GordonS 6y ago
Having to register a new company to try to enroll seems a tad excessive, and certainly shouldn't be necessary.
- dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago
  Registering a new company only for that purpose makes no sense, but using an existing one could be useful, if you take into account a few issues (like the name - but this is more significant with B2C, it won't matter much for the Enterprise program.)
bob1029 6y ago
I know this is probably meant in jest, but in my experience dealing with Apple enterprise dev program for the last 3 years, its probably easier to just incorporate a new LLC and use that if you get stuck somewhere in the process. Probably cheaper too if you value your time.

emidln 6y ago

It took me around 6 months to find out that while we meet the enterprise criteria, our use case wasn't what they envisioned for the enterprise program. As such, they suggested we reapply for a normal dev account and overlook their public instructions that told us to go to their enterprise program.

GordonS 6y ago
In this case, the company wanted to develop their own apps and distribute them internally through tools like App Center and InTune, rather than using the public app store. AFAIK, to do that you need an in-house distribution certificate, and AFAIK you can only get that through the Apple Enterprise Developer program.

closeparen 6y ago

I used to think the Microsoft/Cisco/HP system of certified partner networks was obtuse. Now I see the wisdom. Managing relationships at scale is not the core competency for these companies; it's better that they delegate it to organizations that can. And it's a competitive marketplace. If you don't like your Microsoft partner, there are thousands more to choose from. Incidentally, when you work at one of these partners, you get access to private tech support phone numbers that are the real-life version of XKCD's Shibboleth [0]. [0] https://xkcd.com/806/ https://xkcd.com/806/