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I teach mathematics at a large R1 state university. His comments echo my experience. Online is really different, both for the instructor AND for the student.
by kkylin 6y ago
I teach mathematics at a large R1 state university. His comments echo my experience. Online is really different, both for the instructor AND for the student. Most instructors don't know how to teach online, and most students (even very good ones) don't know how to learn online.
- Reading the room: students, by default, turn off all their cameras and microphones, despite my request (we cannot require this) that they turn them on if there are no privacy, bandwidth, or other issues. Whereas in a classroom, a student can signal confusion merely by frowning or half-raising a hand, I now need to ask a prepared question or give them a real pause.
- Avoiding distraction: there is not much one can do. The things one can use to hold attention in a live in-person lecture -- telling bad math jokes, etc -- don't translate easily. In particular, if you can't see or hear your audience, it can be a little dangerous to try to be funny.
- Establishing command: did not have this problem. I would in any case say this differently: the issue is building rapport with students. Since we switched to online in March, I had half a semester to get to know my students (small class, 20 or so) which really helped.
None of this says online is a non-starter, but it should be organized very differently. One can do recorded lectures and live structured problem sessions (i.e., flip the classroom), or give students more preparatory activity to do, etc. Many of these are sound things to do in a live in-person classroom anyway; online is just not so forgiving and exposes many of the flaws of the traditional lecture format. And students need to be taught how to learn in this environment from the get-go.
Finally, I'll say that the technology has a ways to go. It would be really great if multiple people could talk over each other as if they were in the same room. If video degraded more gracefully (because many students do not have stable enough connections at home) while maintaining audio. If various apps with white boards gave students the ability to "see" your previous boards. (A couple programs do this, e.g., MS Teams, but AFAIK not Zoom.)
And he didn't mention the nightmare that is assessment. I taught a small class to a group of bright, emotionally mature juniors and seniors. Teaching first year students is a completely different story. This is something we're working hard on, with a summer to prepare instead of just a week (our transition happened over spring break). But it's not easy.
Edit: I suppose one way to summarize the above is to say that all the issues can be addressed, but online makes the energy barrier higher (or friction greater, whatever analogy you like) for both instructors and students.
- clueless123 6y agoVR Apps (Alt Space and others) can solve most of this issues right now. The soon coming generation of VR googles actually read your face expressions and replicates them online. IMHO, At the current pace of development, in less than a year, this will be the new reality.
- darkerside 6y agoThese are great points. Running meetings (industry example) over Zoom is very different from running them in person, and for many of the same reasons that you point out. This is going to sound like a plug, but I took a LifeLabs course on Meetings Mastery, and one small part of it was a discussion of how to engage with people over Zoom. Some examples were using the chat to ask questions that merit chat responses, asking people to "+1" in the chat when they agree with something (maybe students could "?" when they are getting lost), and using polls and breakout rooms. As someone who's been frustrated by adapting to the remote environment from a meetings perspective, I can relate. But at least the people in my meetings are mature enough (or compensated well enough) that they will keep cameras on, stay engaged in the discussion, etc.
- kkylin 6y agoThose are nice points; I quite agree there are things one can do to engage people over Zoom etc. But it's less spontaneous and takes more prior planning. Also, many students simply do not want to ask a question in front of their peers, online or in person. When in person, there are other cues I can use to detect student confusion -- frowns, someone trying to decide if they should raise their hand, a barely audible "um..." -- but online all of that is gone.