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I fail to see why this is news. I had games we played 20 years ago in school which taught me tons of stuff, math blasters for example. Putting a game on a scho

I fail to see why this is news. I had games we played 20 years ago in school which taught me tons of stuff, math blasters for example. Putting a game on a school reading list when there is already 100's of games on there, is not really news. Kind of just seems like a ad than anything else.

nix23 6y ago
Thats something else, i never saw a Game on a READING-list. And my teacher never told, so now you go to that Apple Lc2 and play some FlightSimulator, 2 good landings or you have to-do it as homework.
- macspoofing 6y ago
  That's just semantics, but it certainly happened. It may have been more informal when I was growing up, but you still had to play games like "Midnight Rescue" as part of class work. I do think it is silly to put it on a 'Reading List'. I prefer to create a new category.
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  - nix23 6y ago
    >That's just semantics No its not, its about learning howto think about war/extremism/politics and how it influences a society, its NOT a math game like Midnight Rescue. That is why it is on a READING list and not on a Math-Learning plan.
  - RangerScience 6y ago
    > I prefer to create a new category. What else would you put in this category?
- yonaguska 6y ago
  One of the most formative classes I took was in middle school- it was a general "engineering" class- we built balsa wood and wax paper airplanes, balsa-wood bridges, learned VB and made tic-tac-toe and backgammon, our teacher got every student copies of Neverwinter Nights and we used NWScript to make mods and learn simple stuff like for-loops. And he had a lab with Stronghold and Microsoft Flight Sim(with controllers) where we could hang out after school and play games together. I was coming from a background where I wasn't eating every day, the only sport I could afford to do was track- and that was only because the track coach was gracious enough to take me to a running store and buy me shoes, I was spending my nights cleaning office buildings, spending my early mornings getting to school early to shower and cram in my homework for the day before class. I was at a private school, so there was no reduced or free lunch program, and I had a very hard time staying awake in class, except for his class. Partially due to un-diagnosed ADHD and a really terrible home situation. That class gave me an attainable goal to work towards, and now I'm a programmer today. I had previously relegated my ambitions to simply surviving.
  - nix23 6y ago
    Thanks for sharing that beautiful story of yours. But again i thinks that's a first-timer having a game to understand War/History and Society (in a war situation). Sure games existed as playful math/engineering(FSims)/Programming helper and so on...but not in that context.
onlyfor1comment 6y ago
I see you mastered in not reading articles.
avindroth 6y ago
also this war of mine isn’t an ‘educational’ game (you would know if you actually read the article)
- hirundo 6y ago
  It is educational in the sense that literature is, putting yourself in someone else's shoes. That's what the humanities do at their best. IMHO it's an excellent example of a novelistic game for just that reason.
  - nix23 6y ago
    I did that with Leisure Suit Larry....never worked very well :( But this game (War of mine) is fantastic!!! EDIT: Well one time it worked, but that was in florida, so i don't count that.
- dubcanada 6y ago
  It is an educational game, if it was something else it wouldn't have been on the list. Just because it's not classified as an education game does not mean it isn't teaching. The article clear says "“Of course, games are already being used in education for teaching maths, chemistry, and developing cognitive abilities, but I don’t think we’ve ever encountered a game being officially included in the educational system on a national level as a school reading,” said Grzegorz Miechowski, CEO of 11 bit studios." They clearly say there is already games on the list, this is just the first time a game is classified or put into the "reading" category. Which is cool, but I don't get why this is news beyond being a giant ad.
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  - avindroth 6y ago
    ‘educational’ as in math blasters, so this war of mine is not ‘educational’ given that stream of thought u could also argue civ v or skyrim or any other game is an educational game. why, you are learning something while playing league, right? it’s pedantic to claim this war of mine is educational when it was clearly meant for a general gaming audience. that is why it being on a reading list is significant. you should try the game
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aequitas 6y ago
You could maybe compare it to putting the movie Schindler's List on a reading list. (Text)books can only take one a certain depth into understanding these parts of history. Visual media helps making the unimaginable imaginable. Interactive media allows you to immerse and get a small grasp of the impossible choices and consequences surrounding of life in wartime.
happytoexplain 6y ago
Give the article a read, or play the game if you have time - it doesn't make sense to compare the qualities of This War of Mine, educational or otherwise, to those of Math Blaster. The fact that it's on a "reading list" should be the first clue. It really is a pretty interesting decision.
- dubcanada 6y ago
  Your comment sound better if you where not implying I did not read the article (because I did multiple times). "It doesn't make sense to compare the qualities of This War of Mine, educational or otherwise, to those of Math Blaster. The fact that it's on a "reading list" should be the first clue. It really is a pretty interesting decision." Is much better. People take away different things from articles all the time.
  - nix23 6y ago
    How many times you had to read the article to understand it?
    - dubcanada 6y ago
      Ouch... Obviously going to ignore the rather aggressive undertone. I clearly missed something in the article so I reread it. There is nothing wrong with that. My comment was in reference to the guidelines, which clearly state > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."
      - nix23 6y ago
        That's why the question...2 Times? 3 Times more? I mean its not Peace and War or Dr Schiwago ;)
        Bjartr 6y ago
        Don't be an ass
scohesc 6y ago
I think it's a bit different because the games that were put on your childhood computers are designed specifically for children to learn early years skills (mathematics, history, etc.) while something like "This War of Mine" is developed for a wide audience and has now been co-opted into an education system to teach children about refugees, etc.

nix23 6y ago

Thats something else, i never saw a Game on a READING-list. And my teacher never told, so now you go to that Apple Lc2 and play some FlightSimulator, 2 good landings or you have to-do it as homework.

macspoofing 6y ago
That's just semantics, but it certainly happened. It may have been more informal when I was growing up, but you still had to play games like "Midnight Rescue" as part of class work. I do think it is silly to put it on a 'Reading List'. I prefer to create a new category.
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- nix23 6y ago
  >That's just semantics No its not, its about learning howto think about war/extremism/politics and how it influences a society, its NOT a math game like Midnight Rescue. That is why it is on a READING list and not on a Math-Learning plan.
- RangerScience 6y ago
  > I prefer to create a new category. What else would you put in this category?
yonaguska 6y ago
One of the most formative classes I took was in middle school- it was a general "engineering" class- we built balsa wood and wax paper airplanes, balsa-wood bridges, learned VB and made tic-tac-toe and backgammon, our teacher got every student copies of Neverwinter Nights and we used NWScript to make mods and learn simple stuff like for-loops. And he had a lab with Stronghold and Microsoft Flight Sim(with controllers) where we could hang out after school and play games together. I was coming from a background where I wasn't eating every day, the only sport I could afford to do was track- and that was only because the track coach was gracious enough to take me to a running store and buy me shoes, I was spending my nights cleaning office buildings, spending my early mornings getting to school early to shower and cram in my homework for the day before class. I was at a private school, so there was no reduced or free lunch program, and I had a very hard time staying awake in class, except for his class. Partially due to un-diagnosed ADHD and a really terrible home situation. That class gave me an attainable goal to work towards, and now I'm a programmer today. I had previously relegated my ambitions to simply surviving.
- nix23 6y ago
  Thanks for sharing that beautiful story of yours. But again i thinks that's a first-timer having a game to understand War/History and Society (in a war situation). Sure games existed as playful math/engineering(FSims)/Programming helper and so on...but not in that context.

onlyfor1comment 6y ago

I see you mastered in not reading articles.

avindroth 6y ago

also this war of mine isn’t an ‘educational’ game (you would know if you actually read the article)

hirundo 6y ago
It is educational in the sense that literature is, putting yourself in someone else's shoes. That's what the humanities do at their best. IMHO it's an excellent example of a novelistic game for just that reason.
- nix23 6y ago
  I did that with Leisure Suit Larry....never worked very well :( But this game (War of mine) is fantastic!!! EDIT: Well one time it worked, but that was in florida, so i don't count that.
dubcanada 6y ago
It is an educational game, if it was something else it wouldn't have been on the list. Just because it's not classified as an education game does not mean it isn't teaching. The article clear says "“Of course, games are already being used in education for teaching maths, chemistry, and developing cognitive abilities, but I don’t think we’ve ever encountered a game being officially included in the educational system on a national level as a school reading,” said Grzegorz Miechowski, CEO of 11 bit studios." They clearly say there is already games on the list, this is just the first time a game is classified or put into the "reading" category. Which is cool, but I don't get why this is news beyond being a giant ad.
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- avindroth 6y ago
  ‘educational’ as in math blasters, so this war of mine is not ‘educational’ given that stream of thought u could also argue civ v or skyrim or any other game is an educational game. why, you are learning something while playing league, right? it’s pedantic to claim this war of mine is educational when it was clearly meant for a general gaming audience. that is why it being on a reading list is significant. you should try the game

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aequitas 6y ago

You could maybe compare it to putting the movie Schindler's List on a reading list. (Text)books can only take one a certain depth into understanding these parts of history. Visual media helps making the unimaginable imaginable. Interactive media allows you to immerse and get a small grasp of the impossible choices and consequences surrounding of life in wartime.

happytoexplain 6y ago

Give the article a read, or play the game if you have time - it doesn't make sense to compare the qualities of This War of Mine, educational or otherwise, to those of Math Blaster. The fact that it's on a "reading list" should be the first clue. It really is a pretty interesting decision.

dubcanada 6y ago
Your comment sound better if you where not implying I did not read the article (because I did multiple times). "It doesn't make sense to compare the qualities of This War of Mine, educational or otherwise, to those of Math Blaster. The fact that it's on a "reading list" should be the first clue. It really is a pretty interesting decision." Is much better. People take away different things from articles all the time.
- nix23 6y ago
  How many times you had to read the article to understand it?
  - dubcanada 6y ago
    Ouch... Obviously going to ignore the rather aggressive undertone. I clearly missed something in the article so I reread it. There is nothing wrong with that. My comment was in reference to the guidelines, which clearly state > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."
    - nix23 6y ago
      That's why the question...2 Times? 3 Times more? I mean its not Peace and War or Dr Schiwago ;)
      - Bjartr 6y ago
        Don't be an ass

scohesc 6y ago

I think it's a bit different because the games that were put on your childhood computers are designed specifically for children to learn early years skills (mathematics, history, etc.) while something like "This War of Mine" is developed for a wide audience and has now been co-opted into an education system to teach children about refugees, etc.