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I'm wondering how much worst it is since we already can track people pretty well with cellular data now. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, seems like they can

I'm wondering how much worst it is since we already can track people pretty well with cellular data now. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, seems like they can already do all those things. How much worst can it be?

gruez 6y ago
Its the difference between knowing which neighborhood you're in and which street or mabye even which house you're in.
- Waterfall 6y ago
  But you can already tell what house you're in with triangulation, and even the room.
  - gruez 6y ago
    Source on this? Maybe you can do it if it's combined with wifi/bluetooth signals, but I doubt you can do it with cell towers alone.
    - Waterfall 6y ago
      Yes you can. I used a jailbreak app on ios6 and I used llama on Android for this. >The average for Boston is 21 meters; New York 27 meters; Austin, TX, 28 meters; Washington 29 meters, and Chicago 38 meters. https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/research/22928.html https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/re... I got my own room in my house with it, back in the 3G/4G days. I'm not sure what modern software and hardware can do it now, but I'm pretty sure it's even more accurate even without 5G.
      - gruez 6y ago
        >https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/re.. https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/re.... >The average for Boston is 21 meters; New York 27 meters; Austin, TX, 28 meters; Washington 29 meters, and Chicago 38 meters. >A number of factors can impact location data accuracy, including its source, which can include GPS signals, Wi-Fi and cell tower triangulation. Seems like the figures they're giving is with wifi/gps signals, not just cell tower alone.
        Waterfall 6y ago
        I am sure they were able to do it without it, but others can interfer. Triangulation was already a thing in the courts. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/06/victory-supreme-court-says-fourth-amendment-applies-cell-phone-tracking https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/06/victory-supreme-court-... It's in Carpenter vs US, for deducting he robbed a store from just the cell phone signals.
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gruez 6y ago

Its the difference between knowing which neighborhood you're in and which street or mabye even which house you're in.

Waterfall 6y ago
But you can already tell what house you're in with triangulation, and even the room.
- gruez 6y ago
  Source on this? Maybe you can do it if it's combined with wifi/bluetooth signals, but I doubt you can do it with cell towers alone.
  - Waterfall 6y ago
    Yes you can. I used a jailbreak app on ios6 and I used llama on Android for this. >The average for Boston is 21 meters; New York 27 meters; Austin, TX, 28 meters; Washington 29 meters, and Chicago 38 meters. https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/research/22928.html https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/re... I got my own room in my house with it, back in the 3G/4G days. I'm not sure what modern software and hardware can do it now, but I'm pretty sure it's even more accurate even without 5G.
    - gruez 6y ago
      >https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/re.. https://www.mobilemarketer.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/re.... >The average for Boston is 21 meters; New York 27 meters; Austin, TX, 28 meters; Washington 29 meters, and Chicago 38 meters. >A number of factors can impact location data accuracy, including its source, which can include GPS signals, Wi-Fi and cell tower triangulation. Seems like the figures they're giving is with wifi/gps signals, not just cell tower alone.
      - Waterfall 6y ago
        I am sure they were able to do it without it, but others can interfer. Triangulation was already a thing in the courts. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/06/victory-supreme-court-says-fourth-amendment-applies-cell-phone-tracking https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/06/victory-supreme-court-... It's in Carpenter vs US, for deducting he robbed a store from just the cell phone signals.
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