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I would encourage people to read the NCSC blog post on this as it goes into technical detail on why the decision was made. https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/a-

I would encourage people to read the NCSC blog post on this as it goes into technical detail on why the decision was made. https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/a-different-future-for-telecoms-in-the-uk https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/a-different-future-for-tel...

LatteLazy 6y ago
So at least park of the justification here is that we have to comply with Americas foreign policy?
- jaekash 6y ago
  Sometimes USA still manages to do the right thing it seems.
  - LatteLazy 6y ago
    "You can rely on the USA to do the right thing; once it had exhausted all the other options" - Churchill (I think)
    - jaekash 6y ago
      Very true in this case, if it was not for US foreign policy choices China would not be the problem it is today.
pqhwan 6y ago
Effectively US is pulling US-made chip design tools from under huawei’s manufacturing process. Seems that the political calculus is that this will damage huawei’s standing, at the expense of global technological cooperation. But to what end? It falls short of providing Huawei (and the state behind it) with incentives to be more transparent with their technology, and at best creates a necessity for them to become wholly independent in their process. I guess the US is betting they can’t pull this off, but if they do, this policy has bought US nothing but a few years of suppression and a fiercer competition.
- remarkEon 6y ago
  >It falls short of providing Huawei (and the state behind it) with incentives to be more transparent with their technology, and at best creates a necessity for them to become wholly independent in their process. I guess the US is betting they can’t pull this off... Bingo. It seems like this is more a bet that they can't become wholly independent without the tooling itself, or can't become independent for a long while. I doubt it has much to do with "setting up incentives for transparency". I think the "will China become transparent about its actions" question is pretty much settled at this point.

LatteLazy 6y ago

So at least park of the justification here is that we have to comply with Americas foreign policy?

jaekash 6y ago
Sometimes USA still manages to do the right thing it seems.
- LatteLazy 6y ago
  "You can rely on the USA to do the right thing; once it had exhausted all the other options" - Churchill (I think)
  - jaekash 6y ago
    Very true in this case, if it was not for US foreign policy choices China would not be the problem it is today.

pqhwan 6y ago

Effectively US is pulling US-made chip design tools from under huawei’s manufacturing process. Seems that the political calculus is that this will damage huawei’s standing, at the expense of global technological cooperation. But to what end? It falls short of providing Huawei (and the state behind it) with incentives to be more transparent with their technology, and at best creates a necessity for them to become wholly independent in their process. I guess the US is betting they can’t pull this off, but if they do, this policy has bought US nothing but a few years of suppression and a fiercer competition.

remarkEon 6y ago
>It falls short of providing Huawei (and the state behind it) with incentives to be more transparent with their technology, and at best creates a necessity for them to become wholly independent in their process. I guess the US is betting they can’t pull this off... Bingo. It seems like this is more a bet that they can't become wholly independent without the tooling itself, or can't become independent for a long while. I doubt it has much to do with "setting up incentives for transparency". I think the "will China become transparent about its actions" question is pretty much settled at this point.