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This article is specifically about a single person (60yo woman) who had a aneurysm and was actively fighting pneumonia from COVID19. Just because a celeb died

by d1str0 6y ago

This article is specifically about a single person (60yo woman) who had a aneurysm and was actively fighting pneumonia from COVID19. Just because a celeb died doesn’t mean it makes any sense to try and tie in COVID19.

maccam94 6y ago
I've seen multiple reports of severe blood clotting and strokes in COVID patients, including those who are otherwise asymptomatic, including people under 50.[1] Given that there is a pandemic going around with similar symptoms, I don't think this is a huge leap (but again, I am not saying it's anywhere near certain either). I probably should have used this source in my original comment, I just grabbed the first link I had handy. [1]: https://www.biospace.com/article/covid-19-increases-risk-of-heart-attacks-and-stroke/ https://www.biospace.com/article/covid-19-increases-risk-of-... [2]: https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2020/07/what-is-known-about-covid-19-and-abnormal-blood-clotting https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2020/07/what-is-known-ab... [3]: https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/06/11/searching-for-ways-to-prevent-life-threatening-blood-clots-in-covid-19/ https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/06/11/searching-for-ways-...
- ak39 6y ago
  That COVID wasn't mentioned by reports is itself information. I believe that had Grant tested positive for COVID, the reports would have mentioned that. The fact that it isn't mentioned, makes it unlikely that it is COVID related.
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  - antonzabirko 6y ago
    No for some reason these are omitted, such as the death of a recent French mathematician and another one that came up here on hackernews.
  - maccam94 6y ago
    There are still testing backlogs for COVID, it can take multiple days to get results (assuming the doctors decide to run the test). Link #2 also says: It’s hard to know for sure [if clotting is a major factor], because the clotting problem is apt to go undetected. Since most people think of COVID as a respiratory disease and the clotting symptoms aren't as well publicized, doctors may not always call for the test when respiratory symptoms aren't present.
ak39 6y ago
The OP did not say "because a celeb died therefore ...". You said that. It may be insensitive or bad timing to be mentioning COVID as a speculation for Grant's death right now, but it doesn't rule out the possibility.
vmception 6y ago
I specifically didn't want to post my similar suspicions regarding blood clots and covid so that I didn't have to defend myself from the "everything I didn't think of is fearmongering" people. yes, the normal distribution of people dying every year will still happen, but now that there is a blood clot causing virus out there, its also worth considering any time someone dies from a blood clot. not a huge stretch. I would actually wonder if they explicitly ruled that out, I don't trust that medical professionals have this in the modus operandi yet, and especially in the distributed US healthcare system.

by d1str0 6y ago

maccam94 6y ago

I've seen multiple reports of severe blood clotting and strokes in COVID patients, including those who are otherwise asymptomatic, including people under 50.[1] Given that there is a pandemic going around with similar symptoms, I don't think this is a huge leap (but again, I am not saying it's anywhere near certain either). I probably should have used this source in my original comment, I just grabbed the first link I had handy. [1]: https://www.biospace.com/article/covid-19-increases-risk-of-heart-attacks-and-stroke/ https://www.biospace.com/article/covid-19-increases-risk-of-... [2]: https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2020/07/what-is-known-about-covid-19-and-abnormal-blood-clotting https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2020/07/what-is-known-ab... [3]: https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/06/11/searching-for-ways-to-prevent-life-threatening-blood-clots-in-covid-19/ https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/06/11/searching-for-ways-...

ak39 6y ago
That COVID wasn't mentioned by reports is itself information. I believe that had Grant tested positive for COVID, the reports would have mentioned that. The fact that it isn't mentioned, makes it unlikely that it is COVID related.
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- antonzabirko 6y ago
  No for some reason these are omitted, such as the death of a recent French mathematician and another one that came up here on hackernews.
- maccam94 6y ago
  There are still testing backlogs for COVID, it can take multiple days to get results (assuming the doctors decide to run the test). Link #2 also says: It’s hard to know for sure [if clotting is a major factor], because the clotting problem is apt to go undetected. Since most people think of COVID as a respiratory disease and the clotting symptoms aren't as well publicized, doctors may not always call for the test when respiratory symptoms aren't present.

ak39 6y ago

The OP did not say "because a celeb died therefore ...". You said that. It may be insensitive or bad timing to be mentioning COVID as a speculation for Grant's death right now, but it doesn't rule out the possibility.

vmception 6y ago

I specifically didn't want to post my similar suspicions regarding blood clots and covid so that I didn't have to defend myself from the "everything I didn't think of is fearmongering" people. yes, the normal distribution of people dying every year will still happen, but now that there is a blood clot causing virus out there, its also worth considering any time someone dies from a blood clot. not a huge stretch. I would actually wonder if they explicitly ruled that out, I don't trust that medical professionals have this in the modus operandi yet, and especially in the distributed US healthcare system.