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I've fired people for having less wherewithal than to ask a question like this. His performance, output, or attitude are irrelevant. He knowingly used company p

I've fired people for having less wherewithal than to ask a question like this. His performance, output, or attitude are irrelevant. He knowingly used company property to violate federal law... IP law at that. Guy should be lucky he didn't get sued for gross negligence.

geofft 6y ago
I might be misreading the comment above, but it sounds to me like it's asking, "Were there any signs of him being untrustworthy?" (and not "He shouldn't have been fired.") It is precisely because of the magnitude of his error that it would have been nicer to fire him before he made it.
- cutemonster 6y ago
  > like it's asking, "Were there any signs of him being untrustworthy?" That's right -- I'm interested in hopefully recognizing such signs myself, sooner rather than later
wcoenen 6y ago
If you fire people just for asking questions (possibly after misunderstanding the intent of the question like in this case), then it seems likely you'll end up with a team of sycophants that only tell you what you want to hear.
- runamok 6y ago
  I had the first impression as you but IIUC they are saying the rep's poor ethics/judgement are enough to make them unemployable and we should all realize and agree or our judgement is also questionable. E.g. Bob's super smart and gets 10 times the work done as anyone else but he also sexually harasses the secretary and dips into the petty cash drawer at least once a week. It should be clear we don't want to have Bob as our employee. See Susan Fowler's experience with her boss at Uber who sexually propositioned her repeatedly but HR said they would not remove because he was a high performer... https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-on...
  - cutemonster 6y ago
    My question was only to hopefully learn a bit about how people who do such weird things, can be like, otherwise at the workplace. Wasn't suggesting anything related to firing or not.
- cutemonster 6y ago
  @wcoenen you're right in that there's a misunderstanding of intent. @ooobit2 I was asking, only to hopefully learn a bit about how people who do such weird things, can be like, otherwise at the workplace. > I've fired people for having less wherewithal than to ask a question like this Makes me wonder if you've fired people in the past, because of misunderstandings
def8cefe 6y ago
>I've fired people for having less wherewithal than to ask a question like this. Can you explain what this sentence means?

geofft 6y ago

I might be misreading the comment above, but it sounds to me like it's asking, "Were there any signs of him being untrustworthy?" (and not "He shouldn't have been fired.") It is precisely because of the magnitude of his error that it would have been nicer to fire him before he made it.

cutemonster 6y ago
> like it's asking, "Were there any signs of him being untrustworthy?" That's right -- I'm interested in hopefully recognizing such signs myself, sooner rather than later

wcoenen 6y ago

If you fire people just for asking questions (possibly after misunderstanding the intent of the question like in this case), then it seems likely you'll end up with a team of sycophants that only tell you what you want to hear.

runamok 6y ago
I had the first impression as you but IIUC they are saying the rep's poor ethics/judgement are enough to make them unemployable and we should all realize and agree or our judgement is also questionable. E.g. Bob's super smart and gets 10 times the work done as anyone else but he also sexually harasses the secretary and dips into the petty cash drawer at least once a week. It should be clear we don't want to have Bob as our employee. See Susan Fowler's experience with her boss at Uber who sexually propositioned her repeatedly but HR said they would not remove because he was a high performer... https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-on...
- cutemonster 6y ago
  My question was only to hopefully learn a bit about how people who do such weird things, can be like, otherwise at the workplace. Wasn't suggesting anything related to firing or not.
cutemonster 6y ago
@wcoenen you're right in that there's a misunderstanding of intent. @ooobit2 I was asking, only to hopefully learn a bit about how people who do such weird things, can be like, otherwise at the workplace. > I've fired people for having less wherewithal than to ask a question like this Makes me wonder if you've fired people in the past, because of misunderstandings

def8cefe 6y ago

>I've fired people for having less wherewithal than to ask a question like this. Can you explain what this sentence means?