5 ms·

People have a hard time admitting that the normal school experience is often a negative socialization experience. When it's good, it's good, but it should be ob

by aklemm 6y ago

People have a hard time admitting that the normal school experience is often a negative socialization experience. When it's good, it's good, but it should be obvious that alternatives can also be good.

ido 6y ago
Like others I had a negative experience in a "normal" school. Not because of the other pupils but because of the system and (some of) the teachers. Kids will be kids regardless (aside from problematic settings such as coming from abusive and/or broken homes). I was a curious child and school did nothing to encourage that, if anything at best it failed to discourage me from learning. It seemed to have little intent beyond keeping kids busy so parents can work & sort them from most to least competent.
nordsieck 6y ago
> People have a hard time admitting that the normal school experience is often a negative socialization experience. For what it's worth, this is a very common result of shared suffering, from fraternity/sorority initiation rituals to compulsory military service.
Eyght 6y ago
For the first seven years of my schooling, I had the privilege of going to classes with only 8 pupils per teacher. During this time I felt like I had a personal relationship with each of the teachers, and that my schooling was a mutual effort. From the 8th year onwards, I went to schools where we were at least 30 pupils per teacher. During this time, dealing with teachers was more like dealing with a 'school official' rather than a person, and my schooling had turned into a number of abstract criteria contained in a standardized form. Ironically, I've had a much better experience at university, where courses often has had more than a hundred students and only one professor to manage it all.
teekert 6y ago
During Corona we had to home school our 7 y/o and our 3 y/o stopt going to play school (peuter speelzaal in the Netherlands). My son flourished, he was more social and at ease, showed interest in space and how the earth worked. I felt bad putting him back in school. My 3 y/o daughter though was whining constantly for the moment when play school would begin again.
- aklemm 6y ago
  Yeah, exactly. Very similar to my experience during Covid lockdown. Our school is amazing too, but the kids really should only be there for like 4 hours rather than 7. It’s too grueling and doesn’t let them free enough. Of course, for most people life demands it.

by aklemm 6y ago

ido 6y ago

Like others I had a negative experience in a "normal" school. Not because of the other pupils but because of the system and (some of) the teachers. Kids will be kids regardless (aside from problematic settings such as coming from abusive and/or broken homes). I was a curious child and school did nothing to encourage that, if anything at best it failed to discourage me from learning. It seemed to have little intent beyond keeping kids busy so parents can work & sort them from most to least competent.

nordsieck 6y ago

> People have a hard time admitting that the normal school experience is often a negative socialization experience. For what it's worth, this is a very common result of shared suffering, from fraternity/sorority initiation rituals to compulsory military service.

Eyght 6y ago

For the first seven years of my schooling, I had the privilege of going to classes with only 8 pupils per teacher. During this time I felt like I had a personal relationship with each of the teachers, and that my schooling was a mutual effort. From the 8th year onwards, I went to schools where we were at least 30 pupils per teacher. During this time, dealing with teachers was more like dealing with a 'school official' rather than a person, and my schooling had turned into a number of abstract criteria contained in a standardized form. Ironically, I've had a much better experience at university, where courses often has had more than a hundred students and only one professor to manage it all.

teekert 6y ago

During Corona we had to home school our 7 y/o and our 3 y/o stopt going to play school (peuter speelzaal in the Netherlands). My son flourished, he was more social and at ease, showed interest in space and how the earth worked. I felt bad putting him back in school. My 3 y/o daughter though was whining constantly for the moment when play school would begin again.

aklemm 6y ago
Yeah, exactly. Very similar to my experience during Covid lockdown. Our school is amazing too, but the kids really should only be there for like 4 hours rather than 7. It’s too grueling and doesn’t let them free enough. Of course, for most people life demands it.