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Music curation was done by actual people before, almost every social circle had some kind of DJ or music digger providing new stuff. It's another point where te

Music curation was done by actual people before, almost every social circle had some kind of DJ or music digger providing new stuff. It's another point where technology had a negative influence on the social fabric of society.

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TheOtherHobbes 6y ago
It's easy to underestimate how important scenes are in music - clubs, musicians, DJs, producers, promoters, managers, vinyl stores, even musical instrument stores - all cross-networking and building organic scenes which incubate influential styles. Scenes exist on social media, but they're much more diffuse and for some reason are more likely to tinged with irony and/or nostalgia. So they seem to be less effective and - ironically - less experimental and creatively diverse.
KozmoNau7 6y ago
It still is done by actual people, just not as many who do it professionally. The vast majority of my music recommendations come from friends and acquaintances who share tracks in FB groups, chat, amateur Bluetooth speaker "DJing" at gatherings and so on. "Hey man, you gotta hear this one" is alive and very well.
renewiltord 6y ago
Amusing. This is still pretty common. In fact, I'd say there are more of these than before. The change you perceive is more likely to be a characteristic of you and your social circle (perhaps you are older, perhaps the friend who would have done that is now taking care of his firstborn, perhaps you've outgrown those groups). You'll see this same thing in so many different places. People will say "It's not the same now. Back then it was like X". Most commonly, it's more like X than it is different, but the person saying it has changed.
- deltron3030 6y ago
  The "problem" is the oversaturation with good enough or listenable stuff, meaning that careful curation by people doesn't have the social impact it had. Curators are middlemen and become obsolete similar to traditional media in aggregation theory. A reaction or evolution from that is that many who were curators or DJ's get into music production, which means that they hang out in music studios of some kind, forming different social connections (e.g. with musicians). It creates a social divide between the people who just consume from algorithms and those who create. >You'll see this same thing in so many different places. Because it's an inherent feat of technology. Groups also form because different people bring different things to the table. One might be into music, the other one into cooking etc. But cooking isn't enough, it has to be keto & vegan. People move up one level which changes the composition of their social circle. >People will say "It's not the same now. Back then it was like X". Most commonly, it's more like X than it is different, but the person saying it has changed. I wish it were like that because I'm a tech geek myself, but thinking more deeply about the topic and the composition of groups has changed my mind. The divide created by technology is real imo because it isolates groups.
  - deltron3030 6y ago
    >The divide created by technology is real imo because it isolates groups. The divide is real when it's blindly applied without thinking about social disruption is what I wanted to say.
fsflover 6y ago
> Music curation was done by actual people before You can find such thing now as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23717756 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23717756
rorykoehler 6y ago
It still is. DJ mixes

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TheOtherHobbes 6y ago

It's easy to underestimate how important scenes are in music - clubs, musicians, DJs, producers, promoters, managers, vinyl stores, even musical instrument stores - all cross-networking and building organic scenes which incubate influential styles. Scenes exist on social media, but they're much more diffuse and for some reason are more likely to tinged with irony and/or nostalgia. So they seem to be less effective and - ironically - less experimental and creatively diverse.

KozmoNau7 6y ago

It still is done by actual people, just not as many who do it professionally. The vast majority of my music recommendations come from friends and acquaintances who share tracks in FB groups, chat, amateur Bluetooth speaker "DJing" at gatherings and so on. "Hey man, you gotta hear this one" is alive and very well.

renewiltord 6y ago

Amusing. This is still pretty common. In fact, I'd say there are more of these than before. The change you perceive is more likely to be a characteristic of you and your social circle (perhaps you are older, perhaps the friend who would have done that is now taking care of his firstborn, perhaps you've outgrown those groups). You'll see this same thing in so many different places. People will say "It's not the same now. Back then it was like X". Most commonly, it's more like X than it is different, but the person saying it has changed.

deltron3030 6y ago
The "problem" is the oversaturation with good enough or listenable stuff, meaning that careful curation by people doesn't have the social impact it had. Curators are middlemen and become obsolete similar to traditional media in aggregation theory. A reaction or evolution from that is that many who were curators or DJ's get into music production, which means that they hang out in music studios of some kind, forming different social connections (e.g. with musicians). It creates a social divide between the people who just consume from algorithms and those who create. >You'll see this same thing in so many different places. Because it's an inherent feat of technology. Groups also form because different people bring different things to the table. One might be into music, the other one into cooking etc. But cooking isn't enough, it has to be keto & vegan. People move up one level which changes the composition of their social circle. >People will say "It's not the same now. Back then it was like X". Most commonly, it's more like X than it is different, but the person saying it has changed. I wish it were like that because I'm a tech geek myself, but thinking more deeply about the topic and the composition of groups has changed my mind. The divide created by technology is real imo because it isolates groups.
- deltron3030 6y ago
  >The divide created by technology is real imo because it isolates groups. The divide is real when it's blindly applied without thinking about social disruption is what I wanted to say.

fsflover 6y ago

> Music curation was done by actual people before You can find such thing now as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23717756 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23717756

rorykoehler 6y ago

It still is. DJ mixes