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This already happens. I once had a conversation with a Homeland Security officer at a backyard BBQ, and he said: "When you see on the news that Police randomly
by _ah 6y ago
This already happens. I once had a conversation with a Homeland Security officer at a backyard BBQ, and he said:
"When you see on the news that Police randomly stopped a car and discovered a huge cache of drugs... you don't actually think that's random, do you?"
TBH I had never thought about it before but now I recognize this pattern everywhere.
- bonestamp2 6y agoYes, it already happens and that's why it's a problem. If they discovered that they should "randomly" pull over that vehicle through evidence that was gathered illegally, then it should also be considered a violation of the 4th amendment... which is likely why the EFF has launched this project.
- dllthomas 6y agoIt would be interesting - and likely amusing - to extrapolate how many people must be driving around with huge caches of drugs, based on an assumption that purportedly unrelated traffic stops (or equivalent) were in fact random samples.
- stanfordkid 6y agoI really do think a "google maps" for police activity needs to be created -- including every single arrest, prosecution , subsequent legal claim... you should be able to rate police officers like restaurants on Yelp
- pc86 6y agoMy local courthouse is rated on Yelp. In a shocking turn of events nobody could have ever predicted, it has 1 star.
- gonzo41 6y agoThat doesn't mean those stops aren't base on intel gained via legal warrants. It's more likely the police are trying to protect a source, either a person or technical means that is providing them greater information.
- mc32 6y agoThey used to say people going the speed limit on the New Jersey turnpike was a tell. I guess it was/is? a major drug trafficking artery.
- mirimir 6y agoThere's a DEA program called SOD. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R2013... https://www.deamuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/042215-DEAMuseum-LectureSeries-MLS-SOD-transcript.pdf https://www.deamuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/042215-...
- refurb 6y agoMost of the time that’s from confidential informants. Not parallel construction.
- ajsnigrutin 6y agoTechnically it could be random.... If you "did nothing wrong", you also drive like you did nothing wrong (5-10 over), hit some yellow lights, etc. If you know you have a bag of drugs in your car, and a police vehicle pulls at a stop next to you, you can panic. Also if they do stop you, becase you (eg.) didnt use your turn signal, most people just sigh., give some excuse ("I wanted to, but that black car came, and i had to go around, and the cat, and the wipers, and this and that"), and calmly wait for a ticket... people with drugs usually act different. And thirdly, police usually know all the drug dealers in their area, know their cars, and just have to catch them with enough drugs to make it worthwile.... so they probably get stopped a bit more often than a normal random commuter does, even if neither of them use turn signals regularly.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago>This already happens. I once had a conversation with a Homeland Security officer at a backyard BBQ, and he said: Oh, it definitly happens. But officers also make fishing stops all the time too.