I responded to herbstein's "I see little to no evidence of this" with a popular modern intellectual (Jordan Peterson) who has cited a ton of stuff around this.

I responded to herbstein's "I see little to no evidence of this" with a popular modern intellectual (Jordan Peterson) who has cited a ton of stuff around this. If you are too lazy to look that up, fine. You even cited another, Moldberg (not my first or hundredth choice), then hand wave something-something 2020. The only thing I refute is that there is some consensus that there definitely doesn't exist communist/communist-lite ideological trends within our country dating back decades, it most definitely isn't the consensus as Fox News would happily tell you many times a week. I'm not defending it even, I think some of it is true, some not. But... I already refuted the points I came to refute. It's not open and shut, and there exist many who see that narrative being true. If you want to get into the details, sure, we could do that. But Peterson and other right wing thinkers (Thomas Sowell comes to mind) spent a lifetime researching this and distilling it into a series of lectures and books, I'd prefer not to have to re-hash that. That you don't see that it even exists is a sign you either aren't familiar with that literature, or you are just unwilling to ackowledge it. I'm not here to prove it right, just to prove definitely that there exists many counterarguments to you/herbstein, to which you seemed unwilling to admit. -- Edit: If you want some example, we have plenty in Silicon Valley. Companies almost all promote ham-fisted affirmative action hiring policies, any speech against those policies will result in firing, public tarring, and a general ban from the industry. This Equality of Outcome policy is the dominant ideology, enforced in an authoritarian way.