I think we're talking about too many nuanced issues now. The last few messages have been entirely "I said, you said" and we even have seemed to hit a reply limi

I think we're talking about too many nuanced issues now. The last few messages have been entirely "I said, you said" and we even have seemed to hit a reply limit. I'll admit that I have probably not considered your arguments clearly because of my previous biases. But I am also going to claim that you may have done the same. (If you don't that's fine, I am absolutely not trying to gaslight here.) I'll try to address some final points. > Thats's a strawman. I never claimed it's necessary in all forms of discussion, and I don't believe it is. I went of your statement "I'm not sure how you have a civil discussion about inhumane acts that are supported by an oppressive system" in your original post. To me it implied that you think an entirely civil discussion of any form about certain issues is not desirable. > And yet you cited an article on divorce which had little to do with the topic. When I challenged that, you dug in harder and quoted much of the article. I simply wanted to give context to why I quoted the article. I did not want to imply that you had not read or understood the article. Sorry, bad call. > You are the one who made the original claim that it radicalizes people so the burden of proof is on you. I would cite the concepts of "Personal grievance" and "Group grievance" with regard to radicalization. > People who are oppressed are already victims. And you are blaming them for not being polite enough about their outrage. That the victims are the ones who are creating more racism by being outraged. It's their fault that they are radicalizing people. I'm not sure how you can blame a victim for making the problem worse and then say it's not victim blaming. Point taken. Again I do not want to put blame on these victims. I just want to point out that their behavior might have unintended consequences and an environment that allows them to express their grievances without possibly making things worse for themselves would be better. I realize that achieving such an environment might be an impossibly hard task - I accept that when done badly it could make things worse even for them - but I refuse to accept that trying to do so is to be dismissed as victim blaming. EDIT: It seems the reply limit isn't actually a thing. It must have been a visual bug at my end.