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“Funes the Memorious” and Other Cases of Extraordinary Memory (2019)

13 points by anarbadalov 6y ago

the_dripper 6y ago
I recently bougth his book "Ficciones". Still reading other books first, but very excited to read his stories for the first time.
andybak 6y ago
At its core, Funes is not really about memory - I've always felt that is a convenient hook to hang a piece of metaphysics. I prefer to regard it as a parable about identity and what it means that a thing is a particular thing. Maybe it helps to regard it as an elaborate variation on The Ship of Theseus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus Note that it's many years since I read it and I tended to read Borges to avoid having to read actual books on philosophy. ;)
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  "To think is to ignore (or forget) differences, to generalize, to abstract. In the teeming world of Ireneo Funes there was nothing but particulars..." Funes would never have invented the Turing machine, because for him, instead of an infinite tape with a finite repertoire of symbols, a single square with an infinite repertoire of symbols would have sufficed.
  - fmoralesc 6y ago
    For him, even the single square would not exist, only its many many ways it could be. And each separately. > "No sólo le costaba comprender que el símbolo genérico perro abarcara tantos individuos dispares de diversos tamaños y diversa forma; le molestaba que el perro de las tres y catorce (visto de perfil) tuviera el mismo nombre que el perro de las tres y cuarto (visto de frente)." > "Not only he struggled to understand that the generic symbol for dog would encompass so many disparate individuals of many sizes and diverse shapes; he was upset that the dog at three and fourteen (from the side) had the same name that the dog at quarter past three (from the front)."
interestica 6y ago
> and the entertainment pages promote Pirates of the Caribbean, in Technicolor, and a new movie starring Olivia de Havilland and Henry Fonda at $1.50 a seat. Is this a hypothetical? Because I cannot find anything about a Pirates movie from the 40s.
- Cipater 6y ago
  https://wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Swan_(film) https://wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Swan_(film) There are almost twenty pirate films from the 40s alone.
  - 082349872349872 6y ago
    By the 50s one can find O'Hara playing a pirate herself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_All_Flags https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_All_Flags
  - interestica 6y ago
    But none titled 'Pirates of the Caribbean' - a curious error in a historical piece. It's most likely Black Swan since it was released that year. I'd love to see the ad page the author is referring to.

13 points by anarbadalov 6y ago

I recently bougth his book "Ficciones". Still reading other books first, but very excited to read his stories for the first time.

andybak 6y ago

At its core, Funes is not really about memory - I've always felt that is a convenient hook to hang a piece of metaphysics. I prefer to regard it as a parable about identity and what it means that a thing is a particular thing. Maybe it helps to regard it as an elaborate variation on The Ship of Theseus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus Note that it's many years since I read it and I tended to read Borges to avoid having to read actual books on philosophy. ;)

082349872349872 6y ago
"To think is to ignore (or forget) differences, to generalize, to abstract. In the teeming world of Ireneo Funes there was nothing but particulars..." Funes would never have invented the Turing machine, because for him, instead of an infinite tape with a finite repertoire of symbols, a single square with an infinite repertoire of symbols would have sufficed.
- fmoralesc 6y ago
  For him, even the single square would not exist, only its many many ways it could be. And each separately. > "No sólo le costaba comprender que el símbolo genérico perro abarcara tantos individuos dispares de diversos tamaños y diversa forma; le molestaba que el perro de las tres y catorce (visto de perfil) tuviera el mismo nombre que el perro de las tres y cuarto (visto de frente)." > "Not only he struggled to understand that the generic symbol for dog would encompass so many disparate individuals of many sizes and diverse shapes; he was upset that the dog at three and fourteen (from the side) had the same name that the dog at quarter past three (from the front)."

interestica 6y ago

> and the entertainment pages promote Pirates of the Caribbean, in Technicolor, and a new movie starring Olivia de Havilland and Henry Fonda at $1.50 a seat. Is this a hypothetical? Because I cannot find anything about a Pirates movie from the 40s.

Cipater 6y ago
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Swan_(film) https://wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Swan_(film) There are almost twenty pirate films from the 40s alone.
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  By the 50s one can find O'Hara playing a pirate herself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_All_Flags https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_All_Flags
- interestica 6y ago
  But none titled 'Pirates of the Caribbean' - a curious error in a historical piece. It's most likely Black Swan since it was released that year. I'd love to see the ad page the author is referring to.