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Yeah for anyone who was a computer enthusiast in the 90s and 00s the rise of ARM has been an astonishing development comparable to the ubiquity of Linux and dec

Yeah for anyone who was a computer enthusiast in the 90s and 00s the rise of ARM has been an astonishing development comparable to the ubiquity of Linux and decline of Windows.

Koshkin 6y ago
> ubiquity of Linux and decline of Windows Should I read this as sarcasm?
- ardy42 6y ago
  >> ubiquity of Linux and decline of Windows > Should I read this as sarcasm? It could only be sarcastic if he's referring to "Linux on the desktop." I don't have any numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was correct about servers.
  - DubiousPusher 6y ago
    Correct. I am referring to everything except desktop computing. I can see how this would be confusing as I was just referencing desktop prossesor market patterns of the 90s/00s. But I do think Windows's position in the desktop space is somewhat unsustainable at this point. I personally prefer Windows but I just don't see how a heterogenous user interface experience (with users on iOS and Android for mobile and Windows for desktop) will abide for long. I think it's only a matter of time before mobile OSes make some serious inroads to desktop. Though I suppose Google has been salivating at that thought for neaely a decade.
  - cameldrv 6y ago
    If you look at the overall "computing devices with a reasonably high performance CPU" market, Linux has won the server market, and through Android, won the phone/tablet market. If you squint a bit, you can lump MacOS and iOS in this in that they have a Unix core and use a lot of the same software stack as Linux. 50 years ago, IBM owned the computing market with mainframes. They still dominate the mainframe market, that's just become a smaller and smaller portion of the overall computing market as time has gone on.
- macintux 6y ago
  In both the server and especially mobile space Windows has lost its mojo and Linux has been a beneficiary.
- RodgerTheGreat 6y ago
  Linux is ubiquitous. It runs on embedded devices, cell phones, and tablets which surround us. Linux runs most of the computers which underpin websites and services we interact with daily, and it is the only serious choice for HPC. A few people even run it on their laptops. Windows has declined. It is still used extensively, but Microsoft no longer dictates the browser market. Microsoft Office is commonplace, but has genuine marketshare competition in alternatives like Google Docs. Developers increasingly build "desktop" applications as web-based or multiplatform-first instead of Windows-exclusive, with the notable exception of AAA games. The Linux subsystem for Windows is a direct admission by Microsoft that developers want to work with Linux-based software for many tasks.
  - TwoBit 6y ago
    I think he interpreted the statement as meaning linux displacing Windows on desktop, which isn't happening. Phones are displacing Windows on desktop.

Yeah for anyone who was a computer enthusiast in the 90s and 00s the rise of ARM has been an astonishing development comparable to the ubiquity of Linux and decline of Windows.

Koshkin 6y ago

> ubiquity of Linux and decline of Windows Should I read this as sarcasm?

ardy42 6y ago
>> ubiquity of Linux and decline of Windows > Should I read this as sarcasm? It could only be sarcastic if he's referring to "Linux on the desktop." I don't have any numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was correct about servers.
- DubiousPusher 6y ago
  Correct. I am referring to everything except desktop computing. I can see how this would be confusing as I was just referencing desktop prossesor market patterns of the 90s/00s. But I do think Windows's position in the desktop space is somewhat unsustainable at this point. I personally prefer Windows but I just don't see how a heterogenous user interface experience (with users on iOS and Android for mobile and Windows for desktop) will abide for long. I think it's only a matter of time before mobile OSes make some serious inroads to desktop. Though I suppose Google has been salivating at that thought for neaely a decade.
- cameldrv 6y ago
  If you look at the overall "computing devices with a reasonably high performance CPU" market, Linux has won the server market, and through Android, won the phone/tablet market. If you squint a bit, you can lump MacOS and iOS in this in that they have a Unix core and use a lot of the same software stack as Linux. 50 years ago, IBM owned the computing market with mainframes. They still dominate the mainframe market, that's just become a smaller and smaller portion of the overall computing market as time has gone on.
macintux 6y ago
In both the server and especially mobile space Windows has lost its mojo and Linux has been a beneficiary.
RodgerTheGreat 6y ago
Linux is ubiquitous. It runs on embedded devices, cell phones, and tablets which surround us. Linux runs most of the computers which underpin websites and services we interact with daily, and it is the only serious choice for HPC. A few people even run it on their laptops. Windows has declined. It is still used extensively, but Microsoft no longer dictates the browser market. Microsoft Office is commonplace, but has genuine marketshare competition in alternatives like Google Docs. Developers increasingly build "desktop" applications as web-based or multiplatform-first instead of Windows-exclusive, with the notable exception of AAA games. The Linux subsystem for Windows is a direct admission by Microsoft that developers want to work with Linux-based software for many tasks.
- TwoBit 6y ago
  I think he interpreted the statement as meaning linux displacing Windows on desktop, which isn't happening. Phones are displacing Windows on desktop.