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Your words > Name and shame > they should quit That's why I've called it harmful - choice between your complains and people writing code is obvious. Fork it,

Your words > Name and shame > they should quit That's why I've called it harmful - choice between your complains and people writing code is obvious. Fork it, patch it, there is no burden - if people care maintainers would switch, if switched enough patch would get in upstream. Or provide own repository with patches, that's FOSS way. If not by yourself than sponsor. How much do you actually care? How much would you pay? Is it free as speech or free as beer?

Avamander 6y ago
> Your words Without the rest of the context and no, criticism is not harmful. If it is a "sin" like you say, should we look at things you've said about FOSS projects? > Fork it, patch it, there is no burden Either you're delusional or you haven't done either of the things. > if people care maintainers would switch, if switched enough patch would get in upstream or provide own repository with patches, that's FOSS way. Yeah, and it'll take the next decade, being optimistic. GPU acceleration in Chromium and Firefox on Linux is a perfect example how absolute shit that "way" is. > How much do you actually care? How much would you pay? Is it free as speech or free as beer? Feel free (as in freedom) to just type out your arguments instead of asking rhetorical questions.
- sergeykish 6y ago
  So the answer is no, you will not pay. Question was not rhetorical - it is realization of freedom 1. You answer implies there is a fork with GPU acceleration and no one cares (or does not answer my post). Ah, "criticism is not harmful": Name and same: * Avamander
  - Avamander 6y ago
    > So the answer is no, you will not pay. No, I won't pay to devs that ignore conventions. That's like having someone take a s* on my porch and me paying them for not doing so. Plus, demanding payment is the thing not really in the spirit for FOSS. > Ah, "criticism is not harmful": That's just naming, without listing the reason. In addition to that, I listed projects, not people. Shows that you've totally missed the point of the original list.
    - sergeykish 6y ago
      This is not yours software, you are just allowed to use it, that's you who are taking other peoples software on your porch (and naming it s*). No one demands, ever heard of bounty, sponsorship? Do not want to support original developers - fine, 3rd party. Out of principle I can implement XDG Base for ssh client. Just like my work - implementing features I am not that interested in, providing support. I hardly believe any reasonable man expects complains to work in that case. So how much would you pay? Your account may be group of people (and may be not). Project may be group of people (and may be not). Shows that you've totally missed the point.
      - Avamander 6y ago
        > This is not yours software, you are just allowed to use it, Oh but keep in mind in some cases I'm not given a choice. If I could not use snap for example, I would not. But it was forced upon me. So I have every right to be annoyed at someone figuratively taking a shit on my porch. Anyways this discussion has depleted itself, you have no good arguments protecting that nonstandard behaviour.

Avamander 6y ago

> Your words Without the rest of the context and no, criticism is not harmful. If it is a "sin" like you say, should we look at things you've said about FOSS projects? > Fork it, patch it, there is no burden Either you're delusional or you haven't done either of the things. > if people care maintainers would switch, if switched enough patch would get in upstream or provide own repository with patches, that's FOSS way. Yeah, and it'll take the next decade, being optimistic. GPU acceleration in Chromium and Firefox on Linux is a perfect example how absolute shit that "way" is. > How much do you actually care? How much would you pay? Is it free as speech or free as beer? Feel free (as in freedom) to just type out your arguments instead of asking rhetorical questions.

sergeykish 6y ago
So the answer is no, you will not pay. Question was not rhetorical - it is realization of freedom 1. You answer implies there is a fork with GPU acceleration and no one cares (or does not answer my post). Ah, "criticism is not harmful": Name and same: * Avamander
- Avamander 6y ago
  > So the answer is no, you will not pay. No, I won't pay to devs that ignore conventions. That's like having someone take a s* on my porch and me paying them for not doing so. Plus, demanding payment is the thing not really in the spirit for FOSS. > Ah, "criticism is not harmful": That's just naming, without listing the reason. In addition to that, I listed projects, not people. Shows that you've totally missed the point of the original list.
  - sergeykish 6y ago
    This is not yours software, you are just allowed to use it, that's you who are taking other peoples software on your porch (and naming it s*). No one demands, ever heard of bounty, sponsorship? Do not want to support original developers - fine, 3rd party. Out of principle I can implement XDG Base for ssh client. Just like my work - implementing features I am not that interested in, providing support. I hardly believe any reasonable man expects complains to work in that case. So how much would you pay? Your account may be group of people (and may be not). Project may be group of people (and may be not). Shows that you've totally missed the point.
    - Avamander 6y ago
      > This is not yours software, you are just allowed to use it, Oh but keep in mind in some cases I'm not given a choice. If I could not use snap for example, I would not. But it was forced upon me. So I have every right to be annoyed at someone figuratively taking a shit on my porch. Anyways this discussion has depleted itself, you have no good arguments protecting that nonstandard behaviour.