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Maybe he's got a history of working with PHP? $_ENV is an autoglobal array that gets filled with environment variables. https://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.

Maybe he's got a history of working with PHP? $_ENV is an autoglobal array that gets filled with environment variables. https://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.environment.php https://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.environment...

irjustin 6y ago
It's also accessed that way in Ruby. ENV['MY_VAR']
- jeffbee 6y ago
  It's also %ENV in Perl, and ENVIRON in AWK.
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Izkata 6y ago
The example they use at the top of the article is in bash/shell, and seeing it written as in the article (as "ENV variables") is kinda like a code smell, indicating the author isn't really familiar with what they're criticizing. I think that's what GP is getting at, and it threw me as well - the article really only makes sense when looking at it from the perspective of the author not knowing how env vars are scoped.
- coldtea 6y ago
  It's very common to write ENV in all caps. You can be a bona fide master in UNIX and write it that way (just like some people write UNIX and others Unix). Sorry, but technical knowledge/experience is not about particular spelling conventions and word proofing, anymore than they are about wearing "business" clothes...
  - quotemstr 6y ago
    > Sorry, but technical knowledge/experience is not about particular spelling conventions and word proofing Yes, actually, it is. Sloppy language indicates a sloppy mind. I absolutely crank down my estimate of someone's technical competence when I see him writing badly and will continue to do so. Once in a while, you do see bad writing coupled with good technical insight --- especially in infosec for some reason --- but it's the exception, not the rule.
    - coldtea 6y ago
      >Sloppy language indicates a sloppy mind. No, that's a 19th century schoolmaster idea. Many great hackers are messy with grammar and spelling, and even dyslexic.
      - quotemstr 6y ago
        The 19th century had a lot of good ideas that we've managed to forget.
    - SamReidHughes 6y ago
      Saying "ENV," though, isn't writing badly. Or maybe it is, but it's not a sign of sloppiness. It's not like "JAVA," which was never a thing. It shouldn't trigger your brain defect detector.
  - Izkata 6y ago
    All caps is part of it sure, but that's not the only thing going on. Given what "env" means, either "environment variables" or "env vars" is more normal. Mixing one short and one long is an oddity on top of the capitalization. Like I said though, it's along the lines of a code smell. It's definitely possible the writer is simply doing it by reflex due to influence from some other language (but then, why not use that language in the example at the top?), but it sticks out and makes more familiar readers question why it's being written that way, where the author is actually coming from.

irjustin 6y ago

It's also accessed that way in Ruby. ENV['MY_VAR']

jeffbee 6y ago
It's also %ENV in Perl, and ENVIRON in AWK.

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Izkata 6y ago

The example they use at the top of the article is in bash/shell, and seeing it written as in the article (as "ENV variables") is kinda like a code smell, indicating the author isn't really familiar with what they're criticizing. I think that's what GP is getting at, and it threw me as well - the article really only makes sense when looking at it from the perspective of the author not knowing how env vars are scoped.

coldtea 6y ago
It's very common to write ENV in all caps. You can be a bona fide master in UNIX and write it that way (just like some people write UNIX and others Unix). Sorry, but technical knowledge/experience is not about particular spelling conventions and word proofing, anymore than they are about wearing "business" clothes...
- quotemstr 6y ago
  > Sorry, but technical knowledge/experience is not about particular spelling conventions and word proofing Yes, actually, it is. Sloppy language indicates a sloppy mind. I absolutely crank down my estimate of someone's technical competence when I see him writing badly and will continue to do so. Once in a while, you do see bad writing coupled with good technical insight --- especially in infosec for some reason --- but it's the exception, not the rule.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >Sloppy language indicates a sloppy mind. No, that's a 19th century schoolmaster idea. Many great hackers are messy with grammar and spelling, and even dyslexic.
    - quotemstr 6y ago
      The 19th century had a lot of good ideas that we've managed to forget.
  - SamReidHughes 6y ago
    Saying "ENV," though, isn't writing badly. Or maybe it is, but it's not a sign of sloppiness. It's not like "JAVA," which was never a thing. It shouldn't trigger your brain defect detector.
- Izkata 6y ago
  All caps is part of it sure, but that's not the only thing going on. Given what "env" means, either "environment variables" or "env vars" is more normal. Mixing one short and one long is an oddity on top of the capitalization. Like I said though, it's along the lines of a code smell. It's definitely possible the writer is simply doing it by reflex due to influence from some other language (but then, why not use that language in the example at the top?), but it sticks out and makes more familiar readers question why it's being written that way, where the author is actually coming from.