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This episode of the Joe Rogan podcast is with "master builder and architectural designer, teacher, geometrician, geomythologist, geological explorer and renegad
by wsc981 6y ago
This episode of the Joe Rogan podcast is with "master builder and architectural designer, teacher, geometrician, geomythologist, geological explorer and renegade scholar" Randall Carlson.
Randall talks a lot about a flood happening ~12.000 years ago, during a period known as "The Younger Dryas" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas).
Key moments for anyone who doesn't want to watch the 3 full hours are:
0:04:16 Homo sapiens idaltu, oldest modern human skeleton> 7000 generations of humans
0:05:45 new discoveries lending credence to Graham Hancock's thesis
0:06:22 Gobekli Tepe
0:07:30 Tunguska Event, speed and kinetic punch
0:08:27 Possible reason for purposely burying of Gobekli Tepe
0:11:15 Cleopatra < Great Pyramids
0:12:28 Scale of potential loss of human civilisation due to massive impact event(s)
0:14:20 Oxygen isotopes in Greenland, summit ice core samples
0:17:18 Implications for our modern mainstream model of climate change induced catastrophe
0:24:00 The limited scope of the modern climate change debate/'consensus' view and the danger of that, see 0:38:38
0:26:25 Greenland Ice Sheet project history
0:27:31 Little Ice Age, important context
0:29:00 Two periods of global cooling in the last two thousand years
0:30:32 Holy Grail Quest Stories
0:31:33 Dendrochronologists' discovery of stunted forest growth in northern hemisphere in the period of the Grail Quest for 8-10 years, supported by historical records of the time leading to Justinian Plague
0:33:20 Recovery, brought on by return of warmth, 900AD, medieval warm period
0:35:06 Cathedral building phenomenon, ended by Little Ice Age, Black plague
0:38:38 Why are we ignoring this evidence? The problem with the IPCC
0:40:59 The real Inconvenient Truth
0:42:00 Eemian interglacial period temperature oscillations
0:42:22 Oboriginal tales past down through oral tradition about sea levels, analyses by archaeologist W. Bruce Massey
0:45:59 Younger Dryas
0:47:56 Rate of sea level rise, not smooth
0:48:43 Late Pleistocene mortality graph, ~120 species of mega mammals went extinct
0:50:00 Dominant hypothesis of "overkill" or "blitzkrieg" to explain the extinction of the mammoths..
0:52:13 Founding fathers of geology > new school of thought, catastrophism v uniformitarianism
0:54:49 J. Harlen Bretz' proposition of gigantic floods in pacific North West being ignored by peers in 1920
0:56:12 Transition in earth sciences incorporating parts of Bretz his findings, but with a modern example that doesn't scale or compare with Bretz' findings; the new dogma
0:59:36 Joe mentions the problem with the "overkill" hypothesis and Randall adds to it
1:00:05 One of the many mammoth cemeteries
1:01:50 Joe is spooked by Randall's snorting and tries to play it off by referring to the drawing of the "ivory floor" of the London docks covered in Siberian mammoth tusks
1:07:07 Joe asks for Randall's desktop wallpaper, Randall keeps him in suspense for a little longer, shows satellite photo instead
1:11:00 Canada didn't exist
1:14:41 The Bering Strait during Ice Age is exposed, connecting Siberia to North America, 14000-15000yrs ago
1:15:54 Indonesia, modern day v Ice Age
1:16:55 Hundreds of stories that parallel the story of Noah, coinciding with the existing data
1:19:09 if we accept that the stories are based on real events, what do the parts of the persons with foreknowledge imply?
1:19:53 Europe now v during Ice Age, ~15000 yrs ago
1:20:35 Mt. Jumbo, Missoula, Western Montana, shorelines reaching to tops of the hillside
1:21:27 Latreurolle Falls, Basalt layers
1:23:53 West (boulder) Bar giant current ripples, 50ft high
1:25:54 New trend in evidence, geological community is moving in the direction of Randall's assertion, some of the older guard is defending the idea of the jökulhlaups, group of Canadian geologists, John Shaw et al., are challenging this
1:27:50 Where the water for these massive floods came from, asteroidal impact
1:28:45 Impact craters of the last 10.000 yrs, potentially causing massive tsunami's
1:30:45 Modern consensus view of the Younger Dryas, exact match with Plato's account of the subsiding of Atlantis beneath the waves
1:34:20 Recent research, shock-synthesized hexagonal diamonds in Younger Dryas boundary sediments, micro-diamonds, nuclear glass all correlates with massive cosmic impacts
1:35:40 Overspecialisation in modern science, pro's and cons
1:40:02 Listing recent discoveries supporting Younger Dryas cosmic impact hypothesis and narrowing down date to 12.800-12.900yrs ago
1:42:37 Randall mentions gratification as he theorised this 25yrs ago and Joe asks how he became so obsessed with this
1:52:58 What this all means for our species, on a larger scale, big picture, according to Randall
1:53:41 Emerging evidence human population crashed during Younger Dryas
1:55:16 Book of Matthew interesting quote where Jesus talk about what the end of days will look like, what it implies
1:58:33 The moral to all of this, what should we do in terms of consumption of Earth's resources and what to direct our collective efforts at
2:01:34 Error of gradualism in the environmental movement
2:03:27 We'd be fucked without Jupiter
2:03:53 Sacred Geometry and Freemasonry
2:06:58 Difference between modern and ancient architecture, "textbooks in stone"
2:08:48 What is the Masonic Order, "secrets of Freemasons", Masonic traditions
2:12:30 Freemasons as custodians of ancient symbolism, Noah's ark, acacia tree, DMT
2:16:15 DMT as a boon to mankind and the mistake of criminalising it
2:21:34 Climatic optimum after population crash/ Ice Age
2:25:14 Climate shifts again into neo-glaciation, 6000yrs ago
2:27:40 Traumatic effect on consciousness as result of surviving near-extinction event, perhaps gene-deep
2:29:44 insert ''aliens'' meme
2:30:26 Responds hypothetically by calling back to the "7000 generations of modern humans" point and potential advancements of past civilisations, kicks off from there
2:37:58 Freedom to innovate stifled by bureaucracy, encumbering creative processes
2:40:39 Resistance motivates action
2:42:32 parable about making your own way
2:44:05 Why the name "Sacred Geometry"
2:44:56 Architecture, geometry, of our solar system is in perfect balance to allow for us to exist; Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune via bucket mechanism deliver Panspermia to Earth
2:50:02 (Hypothetical) New Jerusalem as representation of our solar system, furlongs, horse racing, 7920, miles, numbers math my brain
- TimSchumann 6y agoWrong thread?
- wsc981 6y agoDefinitely not. Since the time period of when these caves were mined is around the same time a big flood might have happened.
- AlotOfReading 6y agoWhy is it that this stuff comes up in every thread related to archaeology?
- sradman 6y agoThis is important because it relates to the interpretation of the data related to the same timelines that raised the sea levels and, therefore, the water table level that flooded these underground caves in the limestone karst. The interpretation of the data is wrong, but it is the same misinterpretation that is mainstream in the catastrophic climate-change literature. I watched a snippet of the Joe Rogan podcast sometime ago and Joe Rogan's exclamation at the end of the segment went something like "wow, that is the real inconvenient truth". The hypothesis is tied to the historic delta-O-18 [1] data that is best captured by the LR04 Benthic Stack [2] and fully corroborated by other data sources like Greenland/Antarctic ice cores, and cave stalactites. The problem is that the delta-O-18 data is often represented as a delta-temperature proxy. It is a common mistake to assume this is real temperature, it is not. The best way to think of the value is that it represents the amount of fresh water trapped terrestrially. The event in the historical data set represents the sudden release of the glacial meltwater trapped in the North American Great Lakes / St. Lawrence River basin. It is fully expected and does not represent a sudden change in temperature. There are also many predictions that can be made based on the event being tied to a sudden influx of fresh water into the Atlantic via the St. Lawrence river. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Δ18O https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Δ18O [2] https://lorraine-lisiecki.com/stack.html https://lorraine-lisiecki.com/stack.html