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Mine either. They also don't have to worry about Facebook analyzing click behavior via the SDK.

by karxxm 6y ago

yomly 6y ago
Sigh - the number of websites which were broken when browsing the internet from China because trackers from Facebook were not wrapped in exception handling and the endpoints were blocked. Literally couldn't give the companies business. /rage
- throwaways885 6y ago
  Why should any company care about an authoritarian regime blocking facebook.com?
  - pdkl95 6y ago
    Pretending that any resource will always be available is shoddy programming. Check your return values, trap non-fatal exceptions, and always assume remote network resources might not be available. Forget China; there are many reasons an HTTP request to facebook might fail. A website that ignoring errors when fetching a remote resource is bad programming for the same reason ignoring "file not found" errors when calling open() is bad programming.
  - gpm 6y ago
    Maybe they shouldn't. But they probably should care about users blocking Facebook if they are at all ethical. They should probably care about Facebook breaking their site if they care about uptime or might compete against Facebook.
  - yomly 6y ago
    Because when I visit a theatre website to book tickets, whether or not Facebook can stalk me is an orthogonal concern to the primary one of "let me give you my money for your tickets" The number of pages that silently fail or time out after 5-10 mines due to these assumptions is really disappointing. We live in a globally connected world, maybe assuming that a person in China today might be still in China tomorrow is a bad one. But in the meantime you may have left money on the table.
moooo99 6y ago
Are you not tracking your sites performance at all or are you just not using Google Analytics of Facebook analytics for that? Are there any (open source) privacy friendly alternatives with similar basic features?
- FridgeSeal 6y ago
  Piwik is probably the most “out of the box” open source GA alternative, there’s also Snowplow if you want it to be a full edge-through-to-data-warehouse solution.
  - dhimes 6y ago
    Piwik is now Matomo

Mine either. They also don't have to worry about Facebook analyzing click behavior via the SDK.

by karxxm 6y ago

Mine either. They also don't have to worry about Facebook analyzing click behavior via the SDK.

Sigh - the number of websites which were broken when browsing the internet from China because trackers from Facebook were not wrapped in exception handling and the endpoints were blocked. Literally couldn't give the companies business. /rage

throwaways885 6y ago
Why should any company care about an authoritarian regime blocking facebook.com?
- pdkl95 6y ago
  Pretending that any resource will always be available is shoddy programming. Check your return values, trap non-fatal exceptions, and always assume remote network resources might not be available. Forget China; there are many reasons an HTTP request to facebook might fail. A website that ignoring errors when fetching a remote resource is bad programming for the same reason ignoring "file not found" errors when calling open() is bad programming.
- gpm 6y ago
  Maybe they shouldn't. But they probably should care about users blocking Facebook if they are at all ethical. They should probably care about Facebook breaking their site if they care about uptime or might compete against Facebook.
- yomly 6y ago
  Because when I visit a theatre website to book tickets, whether or not Facebook can stalk me is an orthogonal concern to the primary one of "let me give you my money for your tickets" The number of pages that silently fail or time out after 5-10 mines due to these assumptions is really disappointing. We live in a globally connected world, maybe assuming that a person in China today might be still in China tomorrow is a bad one. But in the meantime you may have left money on the table.

moooo99 6y ago

Are you not tracking your sites performance at all or are you just not using Google Analytics of Facebook analytics for that? Are there any (open source) privacy friendly alternatives with similar basic features?

FridgeSeal 6y ago
Piwik is probably the most “out of the box” open source GA alternative, there’s also Snowplow if you want it to be a full edge-through-to-data-warehouse solution.
- dhimes 6y ago
  Piwik is now Matomo