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Personally I like his forms. But I sometimes wonder if he is a good architect. Maybe he should be called a great artist. The same can be said about some websit

by thdrdt 6y ago

Personally I like his forms. But I sometimes wonder if he is a good architect. Maybe he should be called a great artist. The same can be said about some website/app designers. Beautiful designs but barely useable. Maybe those designers should also be called artists.

sgift 6y ago
Have you lived in one of his buildings/have you insight if they really are hard to live in/use? They look that way, but the outside of a building doesn't necessarily translate to the same on the inside.
- kranner 6y ago
  MIT sued him for functional deficiencies in the Stata Center. > Apparently, the three-year-old Stata Center leaks, mold is growing on the exterior, snow and ice fall off the curved roof and projecting windows, and MIT had to spend $1.5 million to rebuild an amphitheater that was cracking due to poor drainage. Source: https://www.architectmagazine.com/design/editorial/so-gehry-got-sued_o https://www.architectmagazine.com/design/editorial/so-gehry-...
  - sgift 6y ago
    Interesting, but that source also says this: Before we start blaming crazy Gehry or making excuses for him, let's take a collective step back. Is the situation really so unusual? Architects, contractors, and clients get embroiled in lawsuits all the time. That's why we have lawyers. For architects in search of a moral, the lawsuit in question should serve as little more than a timely reminder to get familiar with the new AIA contract documents. As it is, Gehry's famous, so the squabble is getting the kind of media attention typically reserved for Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan's latest stint in rehab. In that context, who cares? --- It seems it got settled in the end and we will never know if Gehry (or one of the contractors or no one) was really at fault: https://thetech.com/2010/03/19/statasuit-v130-n14 https://thetech.com/2010/03/19/statasuit-v130-n14
- ethbro 6y ago
  I've worked in one, at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. The Peter B. Lewis Building: https://weatherhead.case.edu/about/facilities/lewis/default https://weatherhead.case.edu/about/facilities/lewis/default Among other problems: (1) no provision was made for the fact that Cleveland gets snow and ice, leading to barriers for pedestrians to avoid their evisceration via detaching ice sheets from the curved roof, (2) the glare off the roof is focused straight down a nearby street @ 5pm, creating driving hazards, (3) it's difficult to navigate internally from one side of the building to the other. Most star architects are hacks, coasting one step ahead of being made to answer for the flaws of their previous projects. The more famous the architect, the more they feel obliged to ignore basic design.
  - aphextron 6y ago
    I think this photo (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5PEXDshWZlA/UaTCV9uc1OI/AAAAAAAAAC4/C5J8rgybYlo/s1600/pbl_toward-lake.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5PEXDshWZlA/UaTCV9uc1OI/AAAAAAAAAC...) perfectly illustrates why this type of architecture is a literal nightmare. It has no concept of its' physical surroundings or geography, it's just someone's abstract fever dream plucked from the sky and plopped into a setting where it makes zero sense.

by thdrdt 6y ago

sgift 6y ago

Have you lived in one of his buildings/have you insight if they really are hard to live in/use? They look that way, but the outside of a building doesn't necessarily translate to the same on the inside.

kranner 6y ago
MIT sued him for functional deficiencies in the Stata Center. > Apparently, the three-year-old Stata Center leaks, mold is growing on the exterior, snow and ice fall off the curved roof and projecting windows, and MIT had to spend $1.5 million to rebuild an amphitheater that was cracking due to poor drainage. Source: https://www.architectmagazine.com/design/editorial/so-gehry-got-sued_o https://www.architectmagazine.com/design/editorial/so-gehry-...
- sgift 6y ago
  Interesting, but that source also says this: Before we start blaming crazy Gehry or making excuses for him, let's take a collective step back. Is the situation really so unusual? Architects, contractors, and clients get embroiled in lawsuits all the time. That's why we have lawyers. For architects in search of a moral, the lawsuit in question should serve as little more than a timely reminder to get familiar with the new AIA contract documents. As it is, Gehry's famous, so the squabble is getting the kind of media attention typically reserved for Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan's latest stint in rehab. In that context, who cares? --- It seems it got settled in the end and we will never know if Gehry (or one of the contractors or no one) was really at fault: https://thetech.com/2010/03/19/statasuit-v130-n14 https://thetech.com/2010/03/19/statasuit-v130-n14
ethbro 6y ago
I've worked in one, at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. The Peter B. Lewis Building: https://weatherhead.case.edu/about/facilities/lewis/default https://weatherhead.case.edu/about/facilities/lewis/default Among other problems: (1) no provision was made for the fact that Cleveland gets snow and ice, leading to barriers for pedestrians to avoid their evisceration via detaching ice sheets from the curved roof, (2) the glare off the roof is focused straight down a nearby street @ 5pm, creating driving hazards, (3) it's difficult to navigate internally from one side of the building to the other. Most star architects are hacks, coasting one step ahead of being made to answer for the flaws of their previous projects. The more famous the architect, the more they feel obliged to ignore basic design.
- aphextron 6y ago
  I think this photo (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5PEXDshWZlA/UaTCV9uc1OI/AAAAAAAAAC4/C5J8rgybYlo/s1600/pbl_toward-lake.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5PEXDshWZlA/UaTCV9uc1OI/AAAAAAAAAC...) perfectly illustrates why this type of architecture is a literal nightmare. It has no concept of its' physical surroundings or geography, it's just someone's abstract fever dream plucked from the sky and plopped into a setting where it makes zero sense.