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Always Debian Stable (currently 10.x)

aidenn0 6y ago
Is that actually possible these days? The last time I tried Debian stable was about 18 years ago, and at that point even "testing" was too old of a kernel to support recent hardware.
- dyingkneepad 6y ago
  These days Debian Stable is very comparable with Ubuntu LTS. They are aiming for a release at about every 2 years, which is the same cadence as Ubuntu LTS. They do have some different policies, such as using Firefox ESR and other things, but there are also the Backports repository and other niceties. And you don't get Snaps forced down your throat. > and at that point even "testing" was too old of a kernel to support recent hardware Today Debian testing has a 5.7 Kernel, which is the most recent one. Debian is indeed a little "behind" in adopting certain modern technologies compared to other distros like Fedora, but most of the time I see this as a plus, because new tech is often buggy and take a long time to mature. I generally don't like to pay the price of being an early adopter. > recent hardware This is indeed an issue. The trick when you get new hardware is that you install Testing but you don't configure your repositories as "testing" you configure them as the name of the current testing distro: "bullseye" today. So if I keep updating my Debian Bullseye, once it gets branched I will be effectively out of testing, then Bulleye will get released and I will be on the stable repository.
  - aidenn0 6y ago
    > This is indeed an issue. The trick when you get new hardware is that you install Testing but you don't configure your repositories as "testing" you configure them as the name of the current testing distro: "bullseye" today. So if I keep updating my Debian Bullseye, once it gets branched I will be effectively out of testing, then Bulleye will get released and I will be on the stable repository. Thanks for the tip.
    - chrisgoman 6y ago
      You have to pick your poison -- is doing this better than dealing with Ubuntu drama
      - aidenn0 6y ago
        I've installed Ubuntu 5 times and been unhappy every time.

Is that actually possible these days? The last time I tried Debian stable was about 18 years ago, and at that point even "testing" was too old of a kernel to support recent hardware.

dyingkneepad 6y ago
These days Debian Stable is very comparable with Ubuntu LTS. They are aiming for a release at about every 2 years, which is the same cadence as Ubuntu LTS. They do have some different policies, such as using Firefox ESR and other things, but there are also the Backports repository and other niceties. And you don't get Snaps forced down your throat. > and at that point even "testing" was too old of a kernel to support recent hardware Today Debian testing has a 5.7 Kernel, which is the most recent one. Debian is indeed a little "behind" in adopting certain modern technologies compared to other distros like Fedora, but most of the time I see this as a plus, because new tech is often buggy and take a long time to mature. I generally don't like to pay the price of being an early adopter. > recent hardware This is indeed an issue. The trick when you get new hardware is that you install Testing but you don't configure your repositories as "testing" you configure them as the name of the current testing distro: "bullseye" today. So if I keep updating my Debian Bullseye, once it gets branched I will be effectively out of testing, then Bulleye will get released and I will be on the stable repository.
- aidenn0 6y ago
  > This is indeed an issue. The trick when you get new hardware is that you install Testing but you don't configure your repositories as "testing" you configure them as the name of the current testing distro: "bullseye" today. So if I keep updating my Debian Bullseye, once it gets branched I will be effectively out of testing, then Bulleye will get released and I will be on the stable repository. Thanks for the tip.
  - chrisgoman 6y ago
    You have to pick your poison -- is doing this better than dealing with Ubuntu drama
    - aidenn0 6y ago
      I've installed Ubuntu 5 times and been unhappy every time.